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re: Lsu has a hitting problem

Posted on 2/26/14 at 12:18 am to
Posted by la_birdman
Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 2/26/14 at 12:18 am to
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I thought we already started using those



Next season.
Posted by tigress77
BR
Member since Sep 2013
322 posts
Posted on 2/26/14 at 12:43 am to
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I thought we already started using those



No, next season. And I don't know why they didn't make the change for this season knowing the huge decline in offense in the College game. I looked up testing done with it...

This has to do with drag effect which is less with the flat seam they will switch to in 2015

"The test was conducted with an average ball exit speed from a machine at 95 mph with a spin rate of 1,400 RPM and a launch angle of 25 degrees. These parameters were set because they replicate the settings of a typical home run or a hit that could become a home run.

The average distance the raised seam ball traveled was 367 feet while the average distance the flat seam ball traveled was 387 feet — 20 feet further."

The approved flat seam balls as I understand it will not have a higher COR, it wont be the .578 COR flat seam used in Pro ball, but I can't find any info other than the only approved change is going to a flat seam. In other words I haven't found any info on what COR, so I have to assume it is still .555
This post was edited on 2/26/14 at 12:58 am
Posted by pivey14
In Your Head
Member since Mar 2012
15445 posts
Posted on 2/26/14 at 12:44 am to
I'd rather have a hitting problem than a pitching problem. State is currently in this position. LSU's gonna be fine.
This post was edited on 2/26/14 at 12:45 am
Posted by MottLaneKid
Gonzales
Member since Apr 2012
4543 posts
Posted on 2/26/14 at 12:44 am to
Just one game of 56. LSU was not going 56-0. We can agree on that.

ULL is a top 10 team. There is no telling how the game would have come out if we had Nola pitching in a Regional game vs. the Cajuns.

All that matters is winning 2 out of 3 games (average) against SEC competition and we will be in the hunt for a Regional etc.

The Boston Red Sox lost games last year at home. When the pressure is on and Omaha is on the line, the Tigers will come through like they usually do.

I guarantee you this. It will snow a foot in Baton Rouge before ULL wins a National Championship in baseball. Let them have their fun tonight. Their program hasn't won 6 NC's.

Posted by tigress77
BR
Member since Sep 2013
322 posts
Posted on 2/26/14 at 1:27 am to
The test was done at Washington State, assuming its the Spokane campus. So its not an arid climate which would bolster the numbers; in fact their average rainfall and humidity is similar to ours.

It seems like a no brainer to have made the flat seam change when they changed the bats. I don't know why they could not have foreseen what has happened.
And Pitchers going to play pro ball have always had to make the adjustment to the flat seam pro ball.
It may be why the change though approved will take 'til 2015 to come into effect to give pitchers that time to adjust, just a guess on my part though.

And if anyone wonders why they don't just go to the pro ball? They only reason I can find is cost; $100 per dozen.
Posted by KBeezy
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2004
13529 posts
Posted on 2/26/14 at 1:55 am to
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The average distance the raised seam ball traveled was 367 feet while the average distance the flat seam ball traveled was 387 feet — 20 feet further."



20 feet farther IMO

Posted by BRAVEHEART
Member since Aug 2012
1525 posts
Posted on 2/26/14 at 3:00 am to
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We hit the ball just fine.
Oh crape', the football Pumpers and their "We'll be just Fine" BS have found their way over to baseball.
Posted by BRAVEHEART
Member since Aug 2012
1525 posts
Posted on 2/26/14 at 3:11 am to
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Wow. We get through 5 innings, the game is called and some people lose their minds.

Did you think we were going to win every baseball game this season or something?
I expect to win every frickin game against every frickin state of Louisisna school, particularly little brother down the road. They're going to close down Lafayette for a week now and have a parade down main street. Some of you little clowns just don't get it, you're so ready to defend your LSU god's and hero's. Don't loose to Tulane or USL on my watch. It's not acceptable!
Posted by GCTiger11
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Jan 2012
45150 posts
Posted on 2/26/14 at 4:23 am to
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I expect to win every frickin game against every frickin state of Louisisna school, particularly little brother down the road. They're going to close down Lafayette for a week now and have a parade down main street. Some of you little clowns just don't get it, you're so ready to defend your LSU god's and hero's. !


Shut the frick up, you entitled whiny pussy. It's baseball. We lost a game that was called in the 5th inning to a nationally ranked team.

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Don't loose to Tulane or USL on my watch. It's not acceptable


It's not a surprise that you can't even spell "lose" correctly. Can't wait until your racist arse is booted from the site.
This post was edited on 2/26/14 at 4:43 am
Posted by Newgene
Waveland, MS
Member since Nov 2005
7236 posts
Posted on 2/26/14 at 4:33 am to
Flat seemed balls will have a two-fold effect on hitting. It will allow the ball to travel further, and it will also make the ball easier to hit. Less drag means less break on a breaking ball. So, batters will see less variation in a curve and a fastball. I am assuming since the breaking ball pitcher will have less of an effect, the pitchers who throw harder will be more utilized. This just leads to even faster pitching (three-fold maybe). Just my theory on this...

The NCAA messed with a good thing when they switched the bats, and now the change in ball is merely an attempt to somewhat go back without saying they screwed up. They eventually need to just bring back the better bats. Both home runs and hard breaking curve balls are part of the game. They have made it an either/or game.
Posted by tigernation56
im the woods
Member since Feb 2013
4778 posts
Posted on 2/26/14 at 6:19 am to
Time for javi to go.
This post was edited on 2/26/14 at 6:20 am
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
56011 posts
Posted on 2/26/14 at 6:23 am to
One 5 1/6 inning game and you say we have a hitting problem

I guess you missed the 28 runs we scores last weekend
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
77416 posts
Posted on 2/26/14 at 6:29 am to
So javi needs to go because of a 5 inning span where we scored 1 run? Nice
Posted by JTA1985
Member since Feb 2012
3191 posts
Posted on 2/26/14 at 6:44 am to
If you can't see a problem then you are blind. We got our arse handed to us in Omaha last year!
Posted by bouefbengal
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
2320 posts
Posted on 2/26/14 at 6:51 am to
How long has Peveto been back on campus ?
Posted by Icansee4miles
Trolling the Tickfaw
Member since Jan 2007
29195 posts
Posted on 2/26/14 at 6:51 am to
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No fire Javi


The brats popped perfectly. He's good.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85039 posts
Posted on 2/26/14 at 6:54 am to
4 hits vs Texas Southern in 9 innings. It's been a bad two games
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39314 posts
Posted on 2/26/14 at 6:55 am to
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The average distance the raised seam ball traveled was 367 feet while the average distance the flat seam ball traveled was 387 feet — 20 feet further."


How do y'all know it's 20 feet farther?
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85039 posts
Posted on 2/26/14 at 6:55 am to
No we didn't.
This post was edited on 2/26/14 at 6:56 am
Posted by rcd0808
Member since Jun 2013
876 posts
Posted on 2/26/14 at 7:04 am to
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How do y'all know it's 20 feet farther?


They ran a bunch of tests and studies before deciding to adopt the ball.
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