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LSU Baseball Roster building and talent evaluations?

Posted on 5/25/26 at 7:19 pm
Posted by tigereye58
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 5/25/26 at 7:19 pm
Would love to hear some of the more connected baseball guys opinion on this. I’m around high end high school baseball quite a bit. There are thousands of kids to choose from.

I looked at some of the different schools current rosters and compared them to LSU. It’s clear that evaluating and choosing the right guys at any level is key. LSU seems to be a really big outlier for recruiting any level at a national level. 2026 HS class has 1 Louisiana kid. Most other schools their HS class is much more regionally based. Texas, AtM, Arky etc for the most part are within a neighboring state for HS guys. But LSU seems to reach far and wide. I wonder if this is the miss. I know that with video they can see more but still recruiting a guy from CA limits an ability to see them no matter what. Look at teams like Southern Miss. Lots of LA guys on the roster. Probably 85% HS guys they grow within their system.

With the resources LSU has I get the national reach but we still don’t have the coaches to lay eyes on some of these guys more than 1-2 times. These national events these kids are coming to them but still that’s hard to see them as much as a regional kid. There’s something to be said for a 4 year guy that’s team first vs a 2 year guy that’s me first. For me watching these coaches navigate this portal environment is intriguing. The best evaluators win vs the ones that rely on national services get burned. I’d add that pitching evaluations are even harder. With “handlers” around for so many of these guys summer ball & HS ball is extremely hard to evaluate. Pitch counts are low to ensure success. Aside from the top 60-90 players it seems everything is a crap shoot.

How does Jay rebuild this in such a Wild West environment?
Posted by TurkeyThug
Member since Jan 2019
365 posts
Posted on 5/25/26 at 7:29 pm to
1. Transfer portal has changed everything.
2. I think he just missed in the portal last year.
3. I think you have to have some sort of balance between the portal and high school talent.

There is no more 3 or 4 year guys. If you can manage to get the high school players and keep them you will have something in a few years. For sure he regrets letting some of those players go last year.
Jay is fantastic coach he will right the ship
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
36289 posts
Posted on 5/25/26 at 7:44 pm to
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How does Jay rebuild this in such a Wild West environment?


It would be one thing if Jay and the staff had not had success in this environment, but that’s not the case. To this point, the 26 portal class is an outlier.

They pretty much hit on 100% of the portal targets in 25 and also did well in recruiting last year. They did well in 24, especially in recruiting. This year’s freshman class looks very strong in the field. None of the pitchers was quite ready, but a couple of them have real potential.
Posted by tigereye58
Member since Jan 2007
2881 posts
Posted on 5/25/26 at 7:46 pm to
I agree but I still think there are 3-4 year guys. Brown, Curiel, Milam are all 3-4 year guys. I think finding pitchers that are 3-4 year guys is harder.

But if there are no 3-4 year guys anymore then why sign 20-24 HS kids every year? There are definitely teams that are portal heavy. UGA has a much smaller HS class. Like 8 HS kids.

I’m really interested to see how JJ adjusts. I agree the guy is relentless so we’ll see how he solves the equation but it’s a very complex environment.
Posted by PP7 for heisman
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2011
10538 posts
Posted on 5/25/26 at 7:53 pm to
More of our top end talent has come from out of state rather than in state under Jay. At the same time, there have not been many LA kids that have gone elsewhere that have produced at an LSU level.
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Look at teams like Southern Miss. Lots of LA guys on the roster. Probably 85% HS guys they grow within their system.
Well those guys put up better numbers because they are generally playing lower competition. They are also going to Southern Miss to sit for a year or two because they weren't good enough in high school to get a free ride + NIL to go to LSU, Tennessee, Arkansas, etc.

It's not like USM is poaching top end LA talent who plays for them day 1. They HAVE to develop guys. They have time to develop guys. LSU isn't afforded the same luxury given the schedule and expectations.

The CA kids like Curiel mostly play in the best league in the country. We're not just using video to scout these guys. Jay (and the staff) have significantly more connections around the country than any staff we've had here previously.
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There’s something to be said for a 4 year guy that’s team first vs a 2 year guy that’s me first.
That'd be great if any of the 4 year guys actually decided to be 4 year guys. I mean Mikey Ryan was a Catholic League kid who jumped at the first sign of playing time elsewhere.

Conversely, our portal guys have been elite. Berry, White, Skenes, Holman, Jump, Dickinson and Eyanson.

Then we've had 2 year guys who are about as team first as it gets in Stanfield and Braswell.

This year was the first year where our "top end" guys were bad, and there's a variety of reasons for that (timing, money, injuries).
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How does Jay rebuild this in such a Wild West environment?

The same way he has the last few years.

You have a good core of guys in Braun, Serna, Bide, Ruckert, Evans, Moore and Schmidt. If not a single one of those guys gets any better, you're still not in trouble at all. They likely will, but you get my point.

He will use this time off (and increased funds - back to the level they were at prior to this past offseason) to go out and fill the gaps in the portal and the draft.
Posted by PP7 for heisman
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2011
10538 posts
Posted on 5/25/26 at 7:56 pm to
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I agree but I still think there are 3-4 year guys. Brown, Curiel, Milam are all 3-4 year guys.
I mean these aren't what you used to call 3-4 year guys. That's usually a Gavin Dugas/Travinski/Beloso type guy. Those guys don't hang around.

The "3-4 year guys" you referenced are all guys who LSU had tremendous draft luck getting. In like 2012, Derek Curiel is a top 15 pick out of HS. Steven Milam did not want to go to college. Jake Brown was a two way guy. We got EXTREMELY lucky in getting all 3.
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But if there are no 3-4 year guys anymore then why sign 20-24 HS kids every year? There are definitely teams that are portal heavy. UGA has a much smaller HS class. Like 8 HS kids.
Because LSU is going to lose anywhere from 5-10 of those guys a year in the draft. Also, Jay said he wants to develop HS recruits instead of relying heavily on the portal. His preference is to have ~6 HS signees on the field with ~3 transfers.
This post was edited on 5/25/26 at 7:58 pm
Posted by SpencerRob
Pass Christian, MS
Member since May 2008
1434 posts
Posted on 5/25/26 at 7:56 pm to
There are probably 200 HS kids nationwide that can be top tier talent. 100 of those will never play in college. There are a lot of kids who can develop, but few who have the mindset to do so
Posted by Mobiletiggah
Mobile Alabama
Member since Mar 2021
4060 posts
Posted on 5/25/26 at 8:35 pm to
I’m going to try to simplify this. CJJ has recruited and played lots of talented young players (freshmen) this year and last. Clearly, from the mound, some of last year’s freshmen didn’t perform as well as expected as sophomores.

Injuries were significant for us coupled with some position players (more than usual) from the portal that just didn’t perform in the SEC.

It seems the approach (I don’t think it changes much) is to get as many HS top 100 players in, no matter where they are from, and mix in some transfers. I think if you see a difference, it will be less portal position players that are not locked in at the plate and more pitchers.
This post was edited on 5/25/26 at 8:39 pm
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
21063 posts
Posted on 5/25/26 at 8:47 pm to
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His preference is to have ~6 HS signees on the field with ~3 transfers.


Did Jay say this or is that your understanding?

Apart from injuries down the stretch, our entire lineup would've been our HS recruits save Stanfield.

Agree with the OP that building an SEC baseball roster is like the wild West. A HC has to find the sweet spot among HS candidates even years in advance. Some will use LSU as leverage with MLB. If you only recruit low-end candidates, they may never develop to be successful in the SEC.

Just madness.

Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79465 posts
Posted on 5/25/26 at 8:53 pm to
Jay talked about finding power through guys who we recruit and grow into their power like Brown va trying to find it in the portal.

I don’t think he’s pass on a Tommy White but he’s less likely to take a chance on a Dardar or Simpson over a guy on the roster
Posted by Chipeace
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
551 posts
Posted on 5/25/26 at 9:04 pm to
I believe we will have a tough season again next year.
Posted by PP7 for heisman
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2011
10538 posts
Posted on 5/25/26 at 9:06 pm to
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Did Jay say this or is that your understanding?

My understanding. He's repeatedly said he wants a team full of home grown talent that has portal supplements.

Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42669 posts
Posted on 5/25/26 at 9:33 pm to
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You have a good core of guys in Braun, Serna, Bide, Ruckert, Evans, Moore and Schmidt. If not a single one of those guys gets any better, you're still not in trouble at all. They likely will, but you get my point.


I don’t.

If we can’t get better starting pitching than what we had this year, we won’t be good.

The pitchers you listed had better improve or stay healthy, or we need to get a big boost out of the portal and talent on on hand.
Posted by ifyoubuildit
Member since Jan 2018
372 posts
Posted on 5/26/26 at 1:15 am to
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If we can’t get better starting pitching than what we had this year, we won’t be good.


For SEC pitchers, Schmidt was 29th in IP this year and 15th in ERA out of this group. Of these 15, 9 were juniors/seniors and only 6 were sophomores (no freshman) including Schmidt. If his progression continues he will be a top level upperclassman next year.

Evans had much better statistics across the board than his ERA indicates. This anomaly will likely not happen two years in a row. He also will be an upperclassman.

Moore was hurt before much SEC play but throws strikes and should be a reliable upperclassman next year.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
56124 posts
Posted on 5/26/26 at 6:17 am to
We could have used Tyson Leblanc at 2nd or 3rd

I would go get Louque and clapinski now
Both are gonna be solid players
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42669 posts
Posted on 5/26/26 at 8:25 am to
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For SEC pitchers, Schmidt was 29th in IP this year and 15th in ERA out of this group. Of these 15, 9 were juniors/seniors and only 6 were sophomores (no freshman) including Schmidt. If his progression continues he will be a top level upperclassman next year. Evans had much better statistics across the board than his ERA indicates. This anomaly will likely not happen two years in a row. He also will be an upperclassman. Moore was hurt before much SEC play but throws strikes and should be a reliable upperclassman next year.


The three have the potential to be good. Two will be juniors and they both should improve, but they must improve to boost our rotation. The other was injured anc we really don’t know how good he is yet.

This post was edited on 5/26/26 at 11:31 am
Posted by mikejsjr0912
Member since Jun 2024
879 posts
Posted on 5/26/26 at 9:35 am to
I don't think he let guys like Mikey Ryan and Costello go. They left before Jay even brought in a portal player. They may have wanted guaranteed playing time and he would not promise it. No telling.
Posted by TopTiger8
Member since May 2026
9 posts
Posted on 5/26/26 at 10:13 am to
He said in multiple interviews he wants to develop more from within. Felt burned by their portal evils this year and wants to now use the portal as a supplement not for the whole roster.
Posted by WigSplitta22
The Bottom
Member since Apr 2014
2398 posts
Posted on 5/26/26 at 10:50 am to
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Felt burned by their portal evils this year and wants to now use the portal as a supplement not for the whole roster.



Well you can't do that and be consistently top level in todays game Jay. You may be able to develop a handful of guys but the majority will have to be portal guys most years
This post was edited on 5/26/26 at 10:54 am
Posted by tigereye58
Member since Jan 2007
2881 posts
Posted on 5/26/26 at 11:24 am to
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I mean these aren't what you used to call 3-4 year guys. That's usually a Gavin Dugas/Travinski/Beloso type guy. Those guys don't hang around.


I agree with this 100% and I think to an extent this is what was missing this year. The guys that were supposed to stick around didn’t and left a void. I’m not sure how you fix that. Also, the 4 year guys are typically Louisiana guys. They buy into the dream of playing for LSU more than the dream of going pro. I’m sure YOY the state doesn’t have 3-4+ LSU caliber guys but for YOY success we have to have the guys that are developing within the program. I think that’s what Jay was eluding to “developing the power within our system like Jake”. Finding them is the hard part though. I just don’t think turning over the roster 15-20 guys a year is sustainable. He has to get it right every time.
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