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re: LSU Announcing New President later today...UPDATE: Tate gets the job...
Posted on 5/6/21 at 7:47 pm to Fightin Okra
Posted on 5/6/21 at 7:47 pm to Fightin Okra
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Predictable hire in today’s society. Too bad it wasn’t made in February
Yep.
My daughter would be going somewhere else.
No pics you degenerates
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Posted on 5/6/21 at 7:47 pm to Salmon
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Ideas should be allowed to be discussed freely. How is that ignorant?
No, no, no! MY ideas are correct and yours are wrong! Idiot!
It's the current American way.
Posted on 5/6/21 at 7:48 pm to Adam Banks
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How many hospital systems did he negotiate with as provost?
Does ULL have a hospital system?
For the record, I would have been fine with Henderson so I’m not trying to compare the two.
Posted on 5/6/21 at 7:51 pm to Salmon
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Yes. There is nothing wrong with discussing, theorizing, and/or studying CRT. Making policy based on these theories on the other hand, that is something that anyone should consider problematic.
And you don’t think a man that has published articles for nearly 30 years from the foundation of CRT will make decisions based in this foundation?
Posted on 5/6/21 at 7:54 pm to Oilfieldbiology
That isn’t what I said nor implied.
I’ve already stated that I understand the concerns due to his background, which likely form his thought processes.
I’ve already stated that I understand the concerns due to his background, which likely form his thought processes.
Posted on 5/6/21 at 7:54 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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Does ULL have a hospital system?
For the record, I would have been fine with Henderson so I’m not trying to compare the two.
No but he has managed much more loosely interconnected institutions with sometimes opposing needs. A lot different that coordinating departments within a system. The next step for Tate would have been chancellor of Tech or maybe even system president of the UL system.
Once again to be clear I’m willing to give him a chance but continuously posting but he was provost of South Carolina is meaningless
This post was edited on 5/6/21 at 7:56 pm
Posted on 5/6/21 at 7:55 pm to SammyTiger
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I am Saying you’re talking out of your arse.
The guys published quite a bit so it shouldn’t be hard for you to find him saying whites are lesser beings.
CRT is a belief system. It’s baked in.
I someone says they are a Nazi or a communist, you don’t need a quote listing their actual beliefs.
Posted on 5/6/21 at 7:55 pm to Bmath
quote:So it sounds like he would do well as the head of the Office of Research and Economic Development. But he's the President of the entire university system. Besides the CRT stuff, I thought he was a poor candidate for the same reason I thought Henderson was better than Droegmeier. What has he led? Managed? He hasn't led even a single university let alone a multi-focal, multi-disciplinary organization. Thus far he's been a scholar, as evidenced by his CV. Not an administrator.
LSU has the Office of Research and Economic Development for this exact purpose. The university will seek out funding opportunities in key areas of need for the state. This can also foster public/private partnerships and go beyond just contributing to academic research by implementing initiatives based on findings.
Maybe he's competent and can do a good job, but on paper and in the interviews he is shockingly underqualified for the position.
Posted on 5/6/21 at 7:56 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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CRT is a belief system. It’s baked in.
I someone says they are a Nazi or a communist, you don’t need a quote listing their actual beliefs.
Just admit you have no idea.
You haven’t read anything he’s ever written and you’re basically basing all this on some second hand retelling of CRT that you got from a very conservative source.
shite I’ll admit I haven’t read his shite. Maybe he does think white people are inferior. Idk. But I will Admit Idk
This post was edited on 5/6/21 at 7:59 pm
Posted on 5/6/21 at 7:56 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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And you don’t think a man that has published articles for nearly 30 years from the foundation of CRT will make decisions based in this foundation?
Salmon clearly stated several posts down he thinks it's toxic and it's practice should be done away with.
I don't think CRT should be axed as a discussion because if you think that then you are literally no different than the followers of CRT that want to transform and get rid of the idea of the first amendment.
I say instead call out the negativities of CRT make sure its crushed that way.
Posted on 5/6/21 at 7:58 pm to WildManGoose
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What has he led? Managed? He hasn't led even a single university let alone a multi-focal, multi-disciplinary organization. Thus far he's been a scholar, as evidenced by his CV. Not an administrator.
Maybe he's competent and can do a good job, but on paper and in the interviews he is shockingly underqualified for the position.
Thank you. That's a very fair assessment.
Posted on 5/6/21 at 7:59 pm to Magician2
Tell me what you are afraid is going to happen, & be specific.
Posted on 5/6/21 at 8:02 pm to SammyTiger
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Just admit you have no idea.
You haven’t read anything he’s ever written and you’re basically basing all this on some second hand retelling of CRT that you got from a very conservative source.
shite I’ll admit I haven’t read his shite. Maybe he does think white people are inferior. Idk. But I will Admit Idk
I'll jump in even though I don't have a dog in your argument.
CRT is pretty black and white (no pun intended)
You don't need a conservative source at all to see Tate clearly wrote about it and sited it multiple times in his papers.
So I say this as cautiously optimistic if he doesn't promote it at LSU I'll give him a chance but if he does... there really is no defense for him.
I challenge in general many people on this board to read up on CRT.
I started here
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Posted on 5/6/21 at 8:04 pm to SammyTiger
I’ve read two of the articles listed in one of these threads,
I’m very familiar with CRT and have read extensively on the subject.
His writings are completely in line.
I’m very familiar with CRT and have read extensively on the subject.
His writings are completely in line.
Posted on 5/6/21 at 8:06 pm to Adam Banks
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Once again to be clear I’m willing to give him a chance but continuously posting but he was provost of South Carolina is meaningless
Him being provost of my alma mater should be a negative from LSU's standpoint. The University of South Carolina is a dumpster fire right now from an administrative standpoint. Between our own chaotic President search and the recent public spat with the largest donor in school history, LSU would have been wise to steer clear of anyone in Columbia. But quickly reading his bio on our website tells you all you need to know about his beliefs.
William Tate
This post was edited on 5/6/21 at 8:09 pm
Posted on 5/6/21 at 8:07 pm to Tigeralum2008
We shall see how it turns out but I’m somewhat concerned about his vision for the university.
We should be more focused on improving the quality of students we’re recruiting/graduating, retention rates, research, academic rankings, etc.
In an Advocate article written earlier today, he claims to be focused on improving college accessibility to those of low income, rural backgrounds, and minorities.
Does that mean we’re going to lower/dismiss admission standards to accept those who fall under these demographics?
I’m not about holistic admissions nor do I want to accept an under-qualified student just because they fit a “diversity” box.
These students should go to a feeder/regional school. Make good grades there? Good! Now transfer to LSU.
The flagship university shouldn’t be for everyone. LSU should focus on recruiting and graduating the highest caliber of student possible.
We should be more focused on improving the quality of students we’re recruiting/graduating, retention rates, research, academic rankings, etc.
In an Advocate article written earlier today, he claims to be focused on improving college accessibility to those of low income, rural backgrounds, and minorities.
Does that mean we’re going to lower/dismiss admission standards to accept those who fall under these demographics?
I’m not about holistic admissions nor do I want to accept an under-qualified student just because they fit a “diversity” box.
These students should go to a feeder/regional school. Make good grades there? Good! Now transfer to LSU.
The flagship university shouldn’t be for everyone. LSU should focus on recruiting and graduating the highest caliber of student possible.
Posted on 5/6/21 at 8:07 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
What is he saying and what don’t you like about it?
Posted on 5/6/21 at 8:10 pm to SCLibertarian
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Him being provost of my alma mater should be a negative for LSU. The University of South Carolina is a dumpster fire right now from an administrative standpoint. Between our own chaotic President search and the recent public spat with the largest donor in school history, LSU would have been wise to steer clear of anyone in Columbia. But quickly reading his bio on our website tells you all you need to know about his beliefs.
I’m having flashbacks to joe alleva duke and LSU
Posted on 5/6/21 at 8:13 pm to Gumbeaux757
If Thomas Sowell were president of LSU, most of the people in here would be ecstatic. You are the racist one for not understanding anything even fractionally below the surface.
This post was edited on 5/6/21 at 8:14 pm
Posted on 5/6/21 at 8:18 pm to GeorgeReymond
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In an Advocate article written earlier today, he claims to be focused on improving college accessibility to those of low income, rural backgrounds, and minorities.
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These students should go to a feeder/regional school. Make good grades there? Good! Now transfer to LSU.
The flagship university shouldn’t be for everyone. LSU should focus on recruiting and graduating the highest caliber of student possible
I agree with your points.
He’s the university system president. I’m fine with increasing access at feeder schools first.
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