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re: LSU 2 deep after signing of Hammink and Coleman?

Posted on 4/24/12 at 10:15 am to
Posted by Elleshoe
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Posted on 4/24/12 at 10:15 am to
Johnny should be on his knees begging Ham to reconsider
Posted by GeismarGeauxer
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Posted on 4/24/12 at 10:29 am to
Who are our 6'9" 4 and 5? JOB is one but who's the other?
Posted by LSUAlum2001
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Posted on 4/24/12 at 10:29 am to
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Johnny should be on his knees begging Ham to reconsider


When is the deadline to remove your name from the NBA draft?

Today?
Posted by LSUAlum2001
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Posted on 4/24/12 at 10:30 am to
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Who are our 6'9" 4 and 5? JOB is one but who's the other?


Ludwig, Courtney and Del Piero.
Posted by GeismarGeauxer
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Posted on 4/24/12 at 10:33 am to
Too light to play 4 or 5
Too light to play 4 or 5
Not a Div 1 college player
Posted by LSUAlum2001
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Posted on 4/24/12 at 10:35 am to
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Too light to play 4 or 5
Too light to play 4 or 5
Not a Div 1 college player


All of the above is true, but it's all we have.

Deadline to remove yourself from the draft is April 29th.
Posted by WeeBeaux
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Member since Jan 2012
698 posts
Posted on 4/24/12 at 10:38 am to
Del Piero shoots layups like a 12 year old girl who rides the bench for her middle school team. Can't wait to watch him go up against Nerlins Noel.
Posted by Tom Bronco
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Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 4/24/12 at 10:42 am to
Two or three games better than last year but much more fun to watch. Depends on how well the three's fall and JOB stays out of foul trouble.

Lineup if we play right now:

Hickey - PG
Hammink - SG
Coleman - SF
Ludwig - PF
JOB - C

The traditional designations won't apply much with this lineup. JOB won't play a traditional center on offense and will still take a lot of jumpers. Ludwig will probably try to guard the other team's center to keep Johnny out of foul trouble. Hammink will be as much a point guard as a shooter and Hickey will get more open looks for his jumper.
This post was edited on 4/24/12 at 11:01 am
Posted by Teacher
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Posted on 4/24/12 at 10:45 am to
Great start! Need Bigs though!
Posted by higgsBoson
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Posted on 4/24/12 at 10:50 am to
I have to believe that JJ is going to get a big in this class. If he could get Odoh, we'd be set.
Posted by Bubba Hotep
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 4/24/12 at 10:57 am to
Roster definitely not set. Could be additions and subtractions.
Posted by BayouBengals03
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 4/24/12 at 11:03 am to
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Sucks that Ham decided to leave because this team would be a top 15 team IMO with the 3 we have signed + Ham.

Nah.
Posted by BayouBengals03
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Posted on 4/24/12 at 11:05 am to
I don't know what Courtney is listed as, but I can tell you that he isn't anywhere close to 6'9'' in real life.
Posted by NorthEndZone
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 4/24/12 at 11:07 am to
Johnny needs to sell a possible starting job to some big men. There's got to be somebody out there to play the 5 and let JOB play his natural 4.

If we don't get at least one more big guy that can rebound and defend, we had better play a spread, fast-breaking style on offense and some kind of halfcourt trapping defense or it will be very tough to compete.
Posted by sunnydaze
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Posted on 4/24/12 at 11:09 am to
Hammink won't start over turner
Posted by ezrulz
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Posted on 4/24/12 at 11:13 am to
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turner isn't a very good defender period. but he played there his freshman season and did okay. went up against tougher matchups last season



I don't understand why people always want to put Turner at the two when he has the skill set of a three. He's a catch and shoot guy with limited ball handling and slashing ability. His game is taylor made for the three spot where he can get wide open looks from the corners when his defender offers weakside help.

Conversely, you have a guy like Hammink who can break down defenders off the dribble, from what I've seen is a very promising passer, and at 6"6 can get good looks against the shotclock. I know Turner is our most experienced returning wing, but to me this is a no-brainer. Start Hammink at the two and I think Coleman benefits tremendously with his ability to get to the rim. If you start Turner, we become stagnant with two threes on the court at the same time.

IMO Hickey, Hammink, Coleman, O'Bryant and hopefully Odoh are your starters with Turner, Morgan, Stringer, Courtney and Ludwig off the bench, pretty much in that order unless we end up with two bigs in this class, which would be fantastic. That my friends, is a tournament team.
This post was edited on 4/24/12 at 11:22 am
Posted by Tom Bronco
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 4/24/12 at 11:15 am to
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Hammink won't start over turner
No, Coleman will. Turner can't play 2 guard unless he has improved his dribbling and passing quite a bit and his defense on the perimeter.
Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 4/24/12 at 11:50 am to
coleman can defend the 2 leaving turner in the 3 spot, coleman is much more athletic than turner
Posted by coachjeaux
Member since Mar 2011
169 posts
Posted on 4/24/12 at 11:52 am to
I don't like the idea of Stringer running the point. I can see Hammink coming off the bench for hickey and turner which ever one needs rest or isn't playing well.
Posted by Slickback
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Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 4/24/12 at 11:59 am to
I still expect Jones to pull a big from somewhere. If not, I expect us to play a small lineup similar to Missouri's from last year.

As it stands now...
Hickey/Stringer
Morgan/Hammick
Turner/Isaac
Coleman/Courtney
O'Bryant/Ludwig


Hopefully...
Hickey/Stringer
Turner/Morgan
Coleman/Isaac
O'Bryant/Ludwig
JUCO (Odoh maybe)/Del Pietro or other Walkon

Hammick redshirting? I'd think someone out of him, Isaac, or Morgan would redshirt.
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