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re: LSU 'Booger' McFarland says Les Miles' seat is getting warm
Posted on 7/16/15 at 8:36 am to blackjackjackson
Posted on 7/16/15 at 8:36 am to blackjackjackson
Give Booger a rope and he thinks he's a cowboy. He and Pollack should get together and they can sit around in their underwear, drinking juice from their sippy cups, Miles bashing and rubbing butter on each other. Anyone who would be in favor of firing Miles for "only" 8 wins is a dumbass and there's a lot of ya'll on here.
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 8:37 am to tigerfan84
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i think he gets another year unless he misses out on a bowl
and that's what he means by using the term 'warm'
Posted on 7/16/15 at 8:38 am to higgins
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THIS. go 4-4 in the sec again, and start putting out feelers. were not a program that should accept mediocrity.
This may be true, but you can argue that Les Miles is the biggest reason why this is the case.
Posted on 7/16/15 at 8:39 am to chilge1
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I'm expecting no less than 8 straight wins followed by at least 2-2 in November and a bowl win.
That's high expectations considering LSU has @ MSU, vs. AU, @ USCe, & vs. UF all in the first 8.
2-2 in November is likely, but anything better than that would be a nice surprise.
I don't expect Bowl wins out of LSU anymore. They have shown a propensity for half-assing those in recent years. Including the BCSNCG.
Posted on 7/16/15 at 8:43 am to tigerinthebueche
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If he can get LSU to a bowl and win it, he deserves another year.
What is the bullshite talk about LSU getting to a bowl and winning it that is good enough. I call bullshite on that. Booger is 100% correct. LSU has elevated the program thanks to Saban and Miles where just getting to a bowl and winning it is not good enough anymore. And hell I am proud of that. With the recruiting classes we keep signing and the depth and talent on these teams if we are not vying for SEC Championships on a regular basis than we are not living up to our potential. I am a Miles supporter and in my opinion he gets a pass on last year because of all the talent that was drained from the team in 2012 & 2013 from early departures. But we all saw what was the issue last year and that was QB play. He brought Cam in to fix those kinds of situations so that needs to be done this year period end of story.
Miles needs to do better than just take this team to a bowl game and win it, he needs to vie for the SEC west title with a good shot at getting to the SEC championship game. If he doesn't do that and we are out of the race early than to me the season is not successful. This needs to be a 10-11 win season. Miles has got way too much talent on this team to be anything less. We have great players and great coaches that needs to be reflected with on the field performance.
This post was edited on 7/16/15 at 8:45 am
Posted on 7/16/15 at 8:45 am to blackjackjackson
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"I don't care what anyone says and I get criticized for being tough on Les," says McFarland, "If his seat is not hot, it's warm. I don't know how people look at it, but eight wins isn't good enough anymore. When i got to LSU in '95, eight wins, we'd throw a party. Like literally, we'd throw a party."
But the times have obviously changed. National championships in 2003 and 2007, along with another championship appearance in 2011, have drastically altered what LSU fans expect from their program. After opening home against McNeese, the Tigers then most travel to Mississippi State, before hosting Auburn in Tiger Stadium.
"He's got to get to 10 wins," McFarland continues, "After the way he finished last year against Notre Dame and the way the team finished, and I'm not going to put it all on coach, but we all know it starts at the top. He's the CEO of this operation. So they have to be able to bounce back, from what they did in the bowl game. This is a very critical year.
Nothing to disagree with here.
In my opinion, after ten years, Les may feel he's now an LSU institution, and invulnerable to job pressures, even if the program's new standard becomes 8-9 wins and is a constant vassal to the gumps.
I don't think this should be the case. No, his seat is not "hot." But Booger is right. It should definitely be getting noticeably warm.
Posted on 7/16/15 at 8:49 am to Dudebro2
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"I'm a Miles supporter..."
You're either a liar or deluded. Either way, you're foolish.
Posted on 7/16/15 at 8:50 am to RB10
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That's high expectations considering LSU has @ MSU, vs. AU, @ USCe, & vs. UF all in the first 8.
We catch State and Aubbie early in the season...
State I fully expect to return to being State, even with Dak, they return very little else at any position. I also expect Miles to be showing clips of Dillon Day the entire week leading up to that game.
Aubbie I think could go the same way it did in 2013. Between what they have on offense with Malzhan and Johnson, and what they gained in Muschamp, Auburn may be the most dangerous team in the conference in the coming years. However, I do think they'll need time to adjust to a more pass-oriented attack and
Muschamp can't fix that defense overnight... catching them early is a HUGE blessing.
As far as USCe and Florida, they combined to go 14-11 last season and I just don't see them pulling it off.
USCe is replacing Dylan Thompson, who was a poor replacement for Connor Shaw, but a capable QB, and Mike Davis, who really impressed me.
Florida is just an absolute trainwreck on offense, particularly on the OL and lost the heart of their defense in Dante Fowler. It'll take a few years for McElwain to turn that program around, if he's ever able to do so.
I just don't see any of these being losses, and I don't see anyone but Auburn even making it a challenging bout.
This post was edited on 7/16/15 at 8:52 am
Posted on 7/16/15 at 8:55 am to Jim Rockford
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Miles will be here until he decides to retire. That is all.
You really think so???
No way if Miles has another 8-4 season with a crappy bowl invite and losing again in the bowl game watch and see how a wild fire spreads. His seat will start to get smoking hot unless there is some mitigating circumstances like the entire offensive line, QB and LF get hurt. I don't care what Miles has done in the past with the talent on this team and the recruiting classes LSU is pulling in, there has to be someone held accountable for failure. And I don't think anyone believes that 8-4 at LSU is success anymore.
If he went 8-4 this year you will see a few coaches let go in order for Miles to save his job and then 2016 it is on. He doesn't pull a 10 or 11win season out and watch and see what happens.
Posted on 7/16/15 at 9:01 am to IB Smacinhos
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IB Smacinhos
What would be an acceptable season for you?
McFarland isn't bashing anybody. He said "warm, not "hot." I think all he was saying is that with a 3 year conference run of 6-2, 5-3, and 4-4, people are noticing a pattern here and if Les doesn't reverse it his seat COULD get hot. I don't know what's so "foolish" about this logic. You're good at name calling, but why not tell me why you think you're right? I'll hang up and listen.
Posted on 7/16/15 at 9:03 am to The Creaux
fair. preach on Anthony.
Like the sun, Miles always rises.
wait for it
Like the sun, Miles always rises.
wait for it
Posted on 7/16/15 at 9:04 am to blackjackjackson
Les is safe unless something catastrophic happens. If we have another season of our normal ridiculously bad QB play Les will catch a ton of deserved criticism but again, his job is safe.
Posted on 7/16/15 at 9:05 am to slackster
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This may be true, but you can argue that Les Miles is the biggest reason why this is the case.
For the sake of argument, let's leave out any "Saban changed the culture and Les just maintained it" convo and just say this:
That's life in the big leagues, whether for an SEC football coach or a corporate manager.
Sometimes you can be the victim of your own success, if you do not maintain the very standard that you set.
Posted on 7/16/15 at 9:06 am to The Creaux
quote:And most of the adult "LSU Nation" knows the truth as well.
Booger speaks the truth.
We all know what the situation is, what needs to happen and what needs to be done.
And yes, the seat where the Grass Man sits is currently warm.
It's no mystery to anybody except for a few scattered juvenile message board cheerleaders that are delusional.......
Posted on 7/16/15 at 9:08 am to IB Smacinhos
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Give Booger a rope and he thinks he's a cowboy. He and Pollack should get together and they can sit around in their underwear, drinking juice from their sippy cups, Miles bashing and rubbing butter on each other. Anyone who would be in favor of firing Miles for "only" 8 wins is a dumbass and there's a lot of ya'll on here.
All I can say to you IB is "stupid is as stupid does!" Boy you are one dumb-arse SOB aren't you. Everyone is held accountable for their job performance and an 8-4 record at LSU is not successful anymore and we all should be proud of that. No one is saying he should be fired for one 8-4 season with a bowl loss to boot. But if you follow up that year with another 8-4 season and another bowl loss. Then there had better be a damn good reason for it. There is way too much talent on the LSU roster and we are paying way too much money for our coaches to think that 8-4 seasons are successful at LSU. When you are getting paid as much as Miles is being paid "top ten in the country" then there are expectations that come with that kind of pay and 8-4 ain't the expectations. The expectations are SEC west titles, SEC championship games and titles and vying for Naty's. If you can't hang with the big boys you don't deserve getting paid like the big boys, that simple dumb-arse!!! You can only live on past performance for so long, eventually it becomes "what have you done for me lately!"
Posted on 7/16/15 at 9:10 am to Nix to Twillie
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but why not tell me why you think you're right?
He can't think why do you think he doesn't express his views on why Booger is wrong and why Miles is "in his thoughts" untouchable.
Posted on 7/16/15 at 9:10 am to Nix to Twillie
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I'll hang up and listen.
Hang up and go away.
I don't look at a 2 year period as being a trend. You're going to have periods when your program is up and when it's down. I'm looking for sustained consistency over a longer term.
Posted on 7/16/15 at 9:13 am to IB Smacinhos
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I don't look at a 2 year period as being a trend.
You do realize the trend wouldn't over 2 years, but 4, correct?
Posted on 7/16/15 at 9:14 am to IB Smacinhos
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Hang up and go away.
Good one.
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I don't look at a 2 year period as being a trend
Actually in the last FOUR, it's been 8-0, 6-2, 5-3, 4-4. That's an entire class.
And you didn't answer my question. Nice try, though.
Posted on 7/16/15 at 9:16 am to Tigerdew
Bogger is on the money! Sadly I think this year our record will be the same 8&5. If it is I think the seat ought to be boiling!
If it is I think the seat ought to be boiling!This post was edited on 7/16/15 at 9:21 am
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