re: Lost his “2” best players???

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Having both of those players probably gets us to 7 - 10 wins

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Highly doubt it given CMM's body of work, but lets play this hypothetical

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which make them a tournament team.

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absolutely not

Mizzou is slated as one of the last teams in with 10 wins. They at least have some big wins and play some tough OOC games.
Auburn only has 7 wins and even with an extremely tough OOC schedule and a few good wins is barely in for now.
Texas is barely still in with 9 wins and a much better OOC schedule.

Oklahoma is your closest comparison resume wise with 7 wins and not the best OOC schedule. And they need to make a run in the tourney even to have a shot.

Even at 10 SEC wins LSU probably wouldnt make the tournament with zero big wins and not one actually good OOC win. SMU is below average ACC

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The only reason a lot of people are dismissive of Reed being a top two player for LSU this year is that they worry it may be a way to excuse McMahon.

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That...or the actual data from the 70+ games he played prior to his injury last season.

He averaged 7 and 4 in SEC play in his Soph season and wasn't even a full time starter.

"But players get better in year 3!" Last year he had a great opening game against a shitty ULM team. He then went for:

Alabama St. 6 points, 3 rebounds, 2 TOs
K-State: 5 points, 8 rebounds, 3 TOs. (He got benched in the second half for Chest.)
Char. So: 6 points, 8 rebounds, 1 TO.

If you recall, LSU's games versus Alabama St and Charleseton So were dog fights. LSU didn't pull away in those games until the final minutes. And those were BAD teams.

"But look what he did in the West Virginia tournament" against Pitt and UCF (neither were NCAAT teams). He scored 14 and 16 (in regulation - UCF went to 3OT." Great! He had good games against major conf. teams in 2024....and averaged 7 and 4 in SEC play.

Reed was an inconsistent player who could occasionally have a good night for 70+ games....until he got hurt. Then he suddenly became LSU's "best" player and the lynchpin to greatness for McMahon

But, even if we ignore logic and data and say Reed was one of LSU's two best players, then what does it say about your roster when one of you rtwo best players is a 7 and 4 guy coming off a major knee injury?

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Give Reed his due

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Intelligent fans ARE giving him his due. He was an average SEC forward who could intermittently have a really good game. It's the McMahon apologist who have created this myth that he was FAR better than he actually was.

Not sure what the delay is. No way you give a lame duck coach another season to set us back even farther.

Reed had moments last season just like Robert Miller had moments this season. Neither player has showed any consistency to the point where you can count on them to be productive most games. DJ is obviously a good player and I’d like for the new coach to have him next season.

When does basketball portal start? Maybe that’s why Verge is in no hurry to get rid of McMahon.

Who is he?

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Im watching Phillips (who McMahon refused to play) looking like the player everyone thinks Reed is

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Those bozos think Reed is the college equivalent of Jokic. Seriously, someone argued the other day that Reed's absence was big because his three point ability allow LSU to create more space....despite the fact the guy has averaged LESS than 1 three point attempt per game for his career. His career average is 1 made three pointer...every THREE games.

Opponents didn't change the way they defended LSU because of Reed's three point ability. They changed the way they defended LSU because they WANTED Reed to attempt 3's. But this is the level of disconnect you're dealing with. Facts and data don't matter in the land of make-believe.

He is wrong though, he’s speaking about Reeds maxed out potential being used properly which didn’t happen and wasn’t going to. I’ve discussed what I think he could’ve been but there’s no evidence it was ever going to happen.

So maybe he can do better than last in the SEC. He’ll never sniff winning the SEC or NCAA.

If he stays, give zero $ for NIL, and give baseball or football more cash.

Hell, spending the cash on tennis, gymnastics, golf, or track would all be better use of the money w him as coach.

I believe w the right coach, men’s basketball could be huge. It would feed itself.

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Im watching Phillips (who McMahon refused to play) looking like the player everyone thinks Reed is

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Shawn Phillips averaged 7.7 PPG and 5 rebounds this season a senior.

Reed averaged 11 PPG and 7 rebounds as a sophomore , his last full season before his injuries. With improvement expected with experience he would likely have been around 15 PPG and 8 to 9 rebounds.

He’s started every game for an 11 win SEC team that won a game in the tourney. Again you invert reality, success is failure and failure is success. And again you make hypocritical statements, accusing me of cherry picking what exactly? Do you mean the way you wishcast about a player who isn’t what you claim him to be? Like that?

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Lmao Jesus man, it’s like an infection. One tard passes it to the next

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How is this truth have anything to do with this? I'm not even saying I want to keep CMM... Just saying how it is. Enjoy being so emotional that you let your anger interfere with logic.