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re: list of college coaches that ranters prefer over miles
Posted on 10/24/12 at 11:17 am to LSU GrandDad
Posted on 10/24/12 at 11:17 am to LSU GrandDad
I like Les too.
Just wished the Les of today and tomorrow would be better than the Les of 1/9. Is that asking too much? Just learn a simple lesson.
Just wished the Les of today and tomorrow would be better than the Les of 1/9. Is that asking too much? Just learn a simple lesson.
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Posted on 10/24/12 at 11:27 am to AlwysATgr
I believe in Les. But please hire an OC next year and let Stud concentrate on the Oline. 
Posted on 10/24/12 at 11:28 am to LSU GrandDad
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less miles is a better coach than any one of these guys and wins a lot more consistently. no flash in the pan with our coach.
Threads like this are always illogical, because they fail to take account of context and circumstance. For example, the mere fact that Les Miles wins more games at LSU than some other coach at, for example, USF or Boise State is really irrelevant and doesn't necessarily prove that Miles is the "better" coach. LSU obviously has a much more fertile recruiting base, vastly better facilities, and a more storied traditional that either USF or Boise State. Naturally, the head coach of LSU benefits from those circumstances.
I'll prove my point with an anecdote. When he was at Michigan State, Saban went 19-17-1 between 1995 and 1997. During that same time period, DiNardo went 26-9-1 at LSU. He even beat Nick Saban head to head in the Independence Bowl. Now, does that mean that DiNardo was a better coach than Saban? Of course not. No one in their right mind would contend as much. Rather, DiNardo benefitted from LSU's recruiting base while Saban had to make do with lumbering northerners. Saban was always the better coach, but he couldn't fulfill his potential until he came to a school with facilities, resources, institutional dedication to football, and a fertile recruitng base. (In fact, Saban recognized that LSU was a "sleeping giant" and that is precisely why he had Jimmy Sexton approach LSU.)
Similarly, I am quite certain that there is some bright young football coach in America who could come to LSU, blossom when provided with LSU's inherent advantages, and win NC's here. Great football coaches aren't THAT rare. They aren't once in a generation geniuses, like Einstein or Shakespeare.
All of this is, of course, idle speculation. Miles isn't going anywhere. So I just hope the offense improves, the staff learns from its mistakes, and we can win another NC.
This post was edited on 10/24/12 at 11:35 am
Posted on 10/24/12 at 11:29 am to LSU GrandDad
Mike Leach
Posted on 10/24/12 at 11:30 am to LSU GrandDad
I'd take damn near any besides mack brown and chizik
Posted on 10/24/12 at 11:30 am to The312
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They aren't once in a generation geniuses, like Einstein or Shakespeare.
I think you left me off your list.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 11:32 am to AlwysATgr
Ranters had similar list when Saban was here before 2003 and even after 2003. The only time they did no ask for Saban head was 2003. Miles is the best coach in LSU history (and better than Saban) and you will not find a better one. Need to get a supper OC with his own offensive philosophy.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 11:35 am to CalTiger53
My thought on where Les's football philosopohy is flawed is this:
Les: "I have a great D and ST's, I don't neeed to to have a prolific O and take risks."
Should be: "I have a great D and ST's, I can afford to take some risks on O."
Les: "I have a great D and ST's, I don't neeed to to have a prolific O and take risks."
Should be: "I have a great D and ST's, I can afford to take some risks on O."
Posted on 10/24/12 at 11:38 am to LSU GrandDad
Well, some dude yesterday said we don't even have the best coach in LA so he thinks Ohhh La La, LaTech and ULM belong on your list as well.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 11:38 am to AlwysATgr
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Les: "I have a great D and ST's, I don't neeed to to have a prolific O and take risks."
Should be: "I have a great D and ST's, I can afford to take some risks on O."
Right on, that is the problem. Freaking Saban is was exactly like that.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 11:40 am to AlwysATgr
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My thought on where Les's football philosopohy is flawed is this:
Les: "I have a great D and ST's, I don't neeed to to have a prolific O and take risks."
Should be: "I have a great D and ST's, I can afford to take some risks on O."
I agree with this. I wish he would be willing to take more chances knowing the D has his back.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 11:41 am to LSU GrandDad
quote:I would be happy with a real, innovative, aggressive young OC. In that case, not necessary to change the head coach.
have read a number of posters over the last few years that have screamed and demanded for miles head and that LSU hire the head coach of....
Posted on 10/24/12 at 11:42 am to Choctaw
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Maximus....that's pretty much it.
wait...Maximus isn't a college coach?!?!
well frick
Max is a Jack Del Rio man.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 11:44 am to LSU GrandDad
I would only take Saban over Les. He is better than all the others.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 11:44 am to Tiger_n_ATL
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a real, innovative, aggressive young OC.
Amen. I just want a passing game not ranked in the triple digits.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 12:12 pm to LSU GrandDad
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TCU - Maybe West Virginia - Never Boise State - Maybe Florida State - No University of South Florida - No South Carolina - Maybe the coach of 10 yrs ago Petrino - Never
If LSU doesn't look towards the NFL they are crazy. Not many good coaches in college. Saban is about it.
This post was edited on 10/24/12 at 12:14 pm
Posted on 10/24/12 at 12:22 pm to theBeard
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Mike Leach
Bring the air raid to baton rouge!
JK
Posted on 10/24/12 at 12:25 pm to theBeard
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If LSU doesn't look towards the NFL they are crazy. Not many good coaches in college. Saban is about it.
LSU is not in a coaching search. What the frick is wrong with you people? Go be a Bama fan and suck Saban's nuts 24/7.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 12:28 pm to The312
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Threads like this are always illogical, because they fail to take account of context and circumstance. For example, the mere fact that Les Miles wins more games at LSU than some other coach at, for example, USF or Boise State is really irrelevant and doesn't necessarily prove that Miles is the "better" coach. LSU obviously has a much more fertile recruiting base, vastly better facilities, and a more storied traditional that either USF or Boise State. Naturally, the head coach of LSU benefits from those circumstances.
yet, dirk koeter, houston nutt, and Dan hawkins all had more more of a recruiting base, better facilities, and more storied tradition at Arizona st, Arkansas, and Colorado. Yet all three were highly successful at boise and couldn't duplicate that success at a bigger program. therefore, you can say your point is illogical as well.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 12:30 pm to JonTheTigerFan
Here is my list:
That said there are a few things about him I would like to improve on.
That said there are a few things about him I would like to improve on.
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