re: list of college coaches that ranters prefer over miles

I don't get the LES hype. The guy is an average coach that gets by with great talent. The year he won the title, he backed with 2 losses just because all other teams sucked that year. Very very average coach.

Nick Saban
Urban Meyer

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that gets by with great talent

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name one coach...in any sport...that won anything of significance with no talent. i'll wait

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To some he was the 2nd coming of Saban after LSU played Tech in '09.

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oh yeah...i remember that shite

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Threads like this are always illogical,

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LSU obviously has a much more fertile recruiting base, vastly better facilities, and a more storied traditional that either USF or Boise State. Naturally, the head coach of LSU benefits from those circumstances

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you just flunked logic. you left out a vital fact; lsu plays better, MUCH BETTER, competition.

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Great football coaches aren't THAT rare

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you have already flunked logic and here you go flunking history and reality all in one fell swoop.

there are indeed some bright young coaches out there that MAY be better than miles, esp. in the area of offense. but, it is not practical to fire miles and hire one on a speculative basis and give him a few years then fire him and then hire another "potential" superstar, etc, etc. after playing this 20 to 40 million dollar "experiment" to find this bright young football coach is pure folley and very irresponsible. TAF funds would dry up very fast; hell, i'm not donating for some AD to play musical chairs with multi-million dollar contracts with multi-million dollar buy outs.

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I would be happy with a real, innovative, aggressive young OC.

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Stud is a great OL coach. Possibly CLM makes a hard decision, moves him back (but pays him well enough so he'll stay) and hires another OC. Hell, maybe the guy from Towson.

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you just flunked logic. you left out a vital fact; lsu plays better, MUCH BETTER, competition

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First of all, you can go ahead and forget the attempts at cutting pithiness. They aren't working. Just argue whatever point you are supposedly making. Second, not necessarily. For example, a head coach from a lower level BCS conference school would face competition comparable to LSU's. The Saban anecdote I provided is the perfect exemplar. Michigan State was in a major conference, faced major conference competition, but didn't have LSU's advantages. The same could be said for many other schools today.

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there are indeed some bright young coaches out there that MAY be better than miles, esp. in the area of offense. but, it is not practical to fire miles and hire one on a speculative basis and give him a few years then fire him and then hire another "potential" superstar, etc, etc. after playing this 20 to 40 million dollar "experiment" to find this bright young football coach is pure folley and very irresponsible. TAF funds would dry up very fast; hell, i'm not donating for some AD to play musical chairs with multi-million dollar contracts with multi-million dollar buy outs.

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This is completely disengenuous for at least two reasons. First of all, I ended my previous post by explicitly stating that this was all idle speculation and that Miles wasn't going anywhere. You apparently decided to ignore that stipulation. Second of all, you started this thread. You can't draft a thread which invites the reader to consider alternatives to Miles and then chastise him/her for doing exactly that.

The bottom line is that your analysis was too simplistic because it rested almost exclusively on comparisons of overall records. By that incomplete metric, you would have also reasoned that DiNardo was a better coach than Saban at the end of 1997. Obviously, an erroneous conclusion. Similarly, you can't conclude that Miles is "better" than a coach at a less advantaged school merely because Miles has a superior record over the same period. The evaluation is more complex.

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has a pretty good record against Saban, Meyer and Spurrier,

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3-3, 3-3, 3-0, respectively. If I had to hazard a guess, UA has had better recruiting classes, during Urban's tenure, the same or better. Spurrier of course is making the most with the least, as much as anyone (save maybe Petrino). Of course ultimately, recruiting is one the primary functions of a CFB HC, so that's on them, not Miles, who's doing his job.

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West Virginia

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Ernie McCracken! Are you kidding me?

Problem is there will be no guarantee chavis would stay here. Firing Les would create a shite storm.