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BRAXLSU99
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re: Let's say Joe B wins the QB job
Well, I would certainly hope so....


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BayouBengal99
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re: Let's say Joe B wins the QB job
You were down voted but some thing can be said for a qb who can make a quick decision and a scheme that allows him to make a quick throw effectively. This does take the wind out of a defense and can put the OL in an offensive state even if they aren't the best OL.

Now if you have the studs up front to make way no matter your scheme then that's a bonus. I think LSU will be a mix of both this year, which can make the offense even more effective. I would always approach the start of a game with quick throws mixed with runs designed to fool the defense. This will take the competitive edge or aggressiveness from the defense and have them guessing from the start.

Make them look at each other and start pointing while you come at them. I'm hoping that Joe B is the type of QB who can make a play happen even when a play really isn't there. There is always a pass to be made IF the QB can find it and has the ability to make that throw accurately. There's nothing more frustrating then when a defense does everything pefectly but the offense gains 10 yards anyway. If we can do that while also running the ball like we have in the past, this team will be very dangerous. Couple that with a new opportunistic defense ran by Aranda and you've got a championship type of season. You can't forget that our FG kicking should be much more consistent in 2018 as well.

I'm pumped to see how this season plays out. I just hope that if Burrow is the starter, he can be just as effective in week one, as he is in week 10 at finishing the opponent. Now if he gets better overall throughout the season, then great but I hope he knows how to do just enough to win at the start of it. GT


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the_watcher
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re: Let's say Joe B wins the QB job
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His pre-snap reads and quick decision making is what makes him stand out.

Where have you seen this? In a spring game where blitzes aren’t allowed? Up 50 in the 4th quarter vs Bowling Green? On high school highlights from 4 years ago?


Bayou
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re: Let's say Joe B wins the QB job
Everyone that's been around the kid claims he possesses the "It factor." I have not heard any voice proclaiming concern over his ability.
Therefore, we go with the trend. Smarts and field leadership are vital.


Datbayoubengal
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Member since Sep 2009
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re: Let's say Joe B wins the QB job
He's exactly what we need right now. He's an accurate passer that can hit a lot of of the short to intermediate stuff that we have neglected for the longest. For the past couple of years it's been sideline passes or chunking it deep, that is an elementary passing scheme.

Going off of Ensminger, if he is to be believed, we'll be running a lot of RPOs and if he and CEH are a real threat to run, we'll have a field day vs teams. Actual misdirection that doesn't rely on 1000 presnap shifts and motions, is also something we've been sorely lacking.

Anyway, I think he'll run a bit. Etling ran way more than I thought he would as a mobile pocket passer, but I think Burrow will be a true dual threat. It's what I've always wanted in an LSU QB.


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sweetwaterbilly
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Member since Mar 2017
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re: Let's say Joe B wins the QB job
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Let's say Joe B wins the QB job


Rohan Davey was on AFR the other day and said, to some effect, that there was no way Burrow was going to come to LSU for his last two years of eligibility without some sort of guarantee (whether spoken or not) that he would be the starter. I haven't watched much of his film but he is a big dude, has a strong arm, accurate, and is more mobile than some people would think. While I do think we will have some packages for Narcisse, I don't think we will be limited by Burrow as far as RPOs and stuff.

Side note: I would love for us to have some goal line packages that feature Narcisse.


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victoire sécurisé
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Member since Nov 2012
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re: Let's say Joe B wins the QB job
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I know shite about
Joe Burrow, except for time
with Urban Meyer.


Upvote for Haiku!


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KC_LSUFAN
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Member since Jun 2017
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re: Let's say Joe B wins the QB job
Nothing more entertaining than when someone starting a post that reads "I have a good friend that told me this"
Joe Burrow is going to the Bourbon Bowl!!!!

Your friend must be on Crack? Because there is so much tape on Burrows playing in "REAL TIME" against SEC type of Defenses? or was this just him asking the Magic 8ball for answers?

10 times better than ANY QB we've had in the last 15yrs LOL
C'mon dude, let's be real and join the real world for a moment

We neeed to LOWER OUR EXPECTATIONS
NEW OC
NEW QB
NEW RB
NEW WR
AND BRUTAL SCHEDULE

This will be like a 7 win season ONLY because ARANDA is a GENIUS ON DEFENSE!!!!!


the_watcher
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Jarule's House
Member since Nov 2005
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re: Let's say Joe B wins the QB job
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Everyone that's been around the kid claims he possesses the "It factor." I have not heard any voice proclaiming concern over his ability.

The post said “he’s great at pre-snap reads and short intermediate throws.” I’m simply asking, other than high school evaluations from 4 years ago or spring game highlights, what evidence led to that conclusion. How can anyone voice concern over his ability when he’s never started a game or played a meaningful college snap?


Dave England
New Orleans Saints Fan
Member since Apr 2013
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re: Let's say Joe B wins the QB job
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How will his talents make an immediate impact on the offense/team?


He will throw the ball or hand the ball off to lsu’s skill position players.

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Downfield passing threat?


When Burrow is in , there is a 50/50 chance the ball will be passed down the field. That will keep defenses honest.

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Good field general?


When Burrow is in, there is 100% chance he will be calling the plays in the huddle.

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Better athlete than we've maybe heard, dual threat?


Oooh every LSU fans favorite term “dual threat”...careful now, you may make some posters soil their drawers.


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Dave England
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re: Let's say Joe B wins the QB job
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reports are that hes already the most talented QB in the SEC


There is *literally* not one report that says this.


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MardiGrasTexan
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Member since Sep 2005
3310 posts

re: Let's say Joe B wins the QB job
Throws a beautiful accurate pass. The type of passes that receivers like to catch while still being accurate enough to keep out of the defender's hands. He has better than average scrambling ability and does not go down easily. He's tough and he has good size. He's the perfect SEC QB. He's been coached up by Urban. We're very lucky to have him choose us.

His highschool highlights.


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atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
7489 posts

re: Let's say Joe B wins the QB job
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The post said “he’s great at pre-snap reads and short intermediate throws.” I’m simply asking, other than high school evaluations from 4 years ago or spring game highlights, what evidence led to that conclusion. How can anyone voice concern over his ability when he’s never started a game or played a meaningful college snap?


exactly.

Look, I'm excited about Burrow. But he hasn't had any meaningful PT. Yes, he looked very good against Nebraska, but that was late in the game against the Huskers' reserves.

Let's just all relax hope he's the real deal - but right now, we have zero way of knowing. I don't care how good he's looking with summer throwing with receivers. Most QBs are going to look good doing that.

Let's see what he does against Miami - then we'll know. Everything else is just a guess.


Philippines4LSU
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Member since May 2018
240 posts

re: Let's say Joe B wins the QB job
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O line is key here.

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Get rid of the bull rush only approach scheme.

Um...


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Bucks2TigerFan
Member since Jun 2018
47 posts

re: Let's say Joe B wins the QB job
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Look, I'm excited about Burrow. But he hasn't had any meaningful PT. Yes, he looked very good against Nebraska, but that was late in the game against the Huskers' reserves.
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Let's see what he does against Miami - then we'll know. Everything else is just a guess.

Everything you said is true, although maybe there’s a little more to go on than a guess. Then OSU QB coach and OC Tom Herman saw enough to like to recruit him, over others he could have gone after. And there is no doubt that Burrow has improved his skills and physical size and strength over that 4 star high school kid Herman signed.

Also, while he was throwing against Husker backups, he was also throwing to Buckeye backups from behind the backup O-line.

A Florida writer had an interesting take on Burrow months ago as to why he thought Joe would be a good fit for the Gators. It’s an interesting read and film study, and still applies today.
Joe Burrow Accuracy & Film Study



Bucks2TigerFan
Member since Jun 2018
47 posts

re: Let's say Joe B wins the QB job
I think the most interesting lines from the article I linked to above are these:

If you constantly see a QB throwing to wide open receivers, it can’t always be because of a broken coverages. Defenses have to make choices about what they want to give up. It is the QBs job to exploit those weaknesses.

Burrow does this really well. His high accuracy numbers are not because he fits the ball into tight windows. It’s because he reads the defense well and delivers the ball decisively to the right place.


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Palm Beach Tiger
LSU Fan
Orlando, Florida
Member since Jan 2007
26311 posts

re: Let's say Joe B wins the QB job
I am thinking its a done deal. Joe has the job. Brennan is the main threat to start over him and he just can’t get the kind of weight on that they need him too. I’d be surprised if he doesnt’t add the weight at some point, but just my opinion thats where they are right now.
This post was edited on 7/11 at 9:31 am


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TigerMak
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Bossier City
Member since Mar 2018
39 posts

re: Let's say Joe B wins the QB job
Sorry that makes you upset, buddy. It’s not actually my info or opinion. It truly is my friends. He has access to things I don’t such as practices and what not. You may not have heard of him over here but he’s pretty well known on 247. FWIW, the 10x comment...pretty sure that was a bit of exaggeration that just meant he was a lot better in that area than previous guys.


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the_watcher
LSU Fan
Jarule's House
Member since Nov 2005
2304 posts

re: Let's say Joe B wins the QB job
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hen OSU QB coach and OC Tom Herman saw enough to like to recruit him, over others he could have gone after.

They also recruited and signed Torrence Gibson that year
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And there is no doubt that Burrow has improved his skills and physical size and strength over that 4 star high school kid Herman signed.

Size and strength sure. We just haven’t really seen those “skills” in an actual meaningful game or situation
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A Florida writer had an interesting take on Burrow months ago as to why he thought Joe would be a good fit for the Gators. It’s an interesting read and film study, and still applies today.

The major premise of his article is that Burrow was accurate in high school. What college QB recruit isn’t? He then has two clips from Burrow playing up 46 points vs. Bowling Green and up 52 points vs Maryland. Look I hope he’s incredible and wins the heisman and LSU goes undefeated but the hype on this kid who couldn’t beat out JT Barrret or Haskins is out of control.


des4271
Member since Oct 2014
371 posts

re: Let's say Joe B wins the QB job
Nice reply, I was thinking the same thing. That's why Brees, Brady, Manning, Rodgers and the elite QBs are so good. Their football IQ is so high that pre/post snap reads of defensive formations/alignments/tendencies give them a good idea of where they need to go with the ball. The "speed" for these QBs are in their brain, they process things so fast they can keep sacks to a minimum because of their quick processing skills whether it's hitting the hot route or audibling to a different play to gain an advantage over defensive alignment.


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