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re: Let's say Joe B wins the QB job

Posted on 7/11/18 at 11:39 am to
Posted by Bucks2TigerFan
Member since Jun 2018
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Posted on 7/11/18 at 11:39 am to
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The major premise of his article is that Burrow was accurate in high school. What college QB recruit isn’t?


If you think most college QB recruits have 70% accuracy, you'd be thinking wrong, that is an elite percentage, but hey, I guess watching isn't the same as seeing.
Posted by Laman1978
Earth
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Posted on 7/11/18 at 11:43 am to
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his talents
Downvoted for this sheepish LeBron James shite.
Posted by the_watcher
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Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 7/11/18 at 11:50 am to
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If you think most college QB recruits have 70% accuracy, you'd be thinking wrong, that is an elite percentage, but hey, I guess watching isn't the same as seeing

Assuming he will he great in college because he was accurate in high school 4 years ago is absurd. Be better than this
Posted by ThePaleHorse
Houston
Member since Jul 2011
807 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 12:16 pm to
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That's why Brees, Brady, Manning, Rodgers and the elite QBs are so good.


Brees' mind works so dam fast he even licks his hands on the sidelines... with no ball. Ever notice that?

Posted by ThePaleHorse
Houston
Member since Jul 2011
807 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 12:18 pm to
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Assuming he will he great in college


You are correct, but its a good basis for being excited for his potential.

Posted by roygu
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/11/18 at 2:11 pm to
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Where have you seen this? In a spring game where blitzes aren’t allowed? Up 50 in the 4th quarter vs Bowling Green? On high school highlights from 4 years ago?




Don't you believe that coaches know if a QB can make pre snap reads of the defence before they play the first game?
I remember when Hodson was a Red Shirt freshman. We had no experienced QB. When Arnsparger was asked about the QB position, he responed, "We are not worried about QB we have a QB. The first game was vs a ranked TA&M. Hodson dominated that game.
I suspect that was the big factor that made Burrow so much in demand by this staff. They have seen the guys in practice and know their weakness. They are not ready.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18128 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 3:52 pm to
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Don't you believe that coaches know if a QB can make pre snap reads of the defence before they play the first game?
I suspect that was the big factor that made Burrow so much in demand by this staff. They have seen the guys in practice and know their weakness. They are not ready.
I agree that our other QBs aren't ready, but Burrow hasn't practiced with us yet, so we really don't know about his pre-snap reads. Other than what our coaches have been told when they were chasing Burrow, but I don't know how much input, if any, they got from OSU coaches.
Posted by the_watcher
Jarule's House
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 7/11/18 at 4:18 pm to
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Don't you believe that coaches know if a QB can make pre snap reads of the defence before they play the first game?

Coaches? Sure. But LSU coaches aren’t the ones claiming this in the thread. Fans without a clue are
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I remember when Hodson was a Red Shirt freshman. We had no experienced QB. When Arnsparger was asked about the QB position, he responed, "We are not worried about QB we have a QB. The first game was vs a ranked TA&M. Hodson dominated that game.

So because Hudson was good as a RS FR, Burrow will also be good? How is that logical?
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I suspect that was the big factor that made Burrow so much in demand by this staff. They have seen the guys in practice and know their weakness. They are not ready.

Again, because the QB’s on our roster are bad that means Burrow is ready?
Posted by Cajun Catfish
Member since May 2016
695 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 4:47 pm to
This is such BS... the QBs on our team are not bad QBs... AW... any qb that is offered a scholarship to LSU has to be damn good. Has he been developed since he’s been here, is another question? And then the problem is, only one can play. The best one! The second best rides the bench no matter how good he is. Keep believing JB is the savoir and the rest suck.. Just don’t be shocked when it does not work out that way.
Posted by the_watcher
Jarule's House
Member since Nov 2005
3450 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 4:58 pm to
LOL. Re-read my post. I never said our QB’s were bad. The post I responded to said they were and therefore Burrow must be good. Which I pointed out was illogical.
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Keep believing JB is the savoir

I’ve literally been arguing against this all afternoon. Try to keep up
Posted by Cajun Catfish
Member since May 2016
695 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 5:44 pm to
Sorry, will do..
Posted by Dick Backus
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 7/11/18 at 8:24 pm to
I am a diehard Buckeye fan. If you want to see Burrow look at our last two spring games. You have a geat kid in Joe Burrow. He is very accurate, and gets rid of the ball quickly. He lacks experience, but will get it at LSU. Throws the deep ball well. I believe in tome you will be very pleased in Joe Burrow. Meyer was in love with J.T.Barrett or Burrow would have played a lot more.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 10:32 pm to
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am a diehard Buckeye fan. If you want to see Burrow look at our last two spring games. You have a geat kid in Joe Burrow. He is very accurate, and gets rid of the ball quickly. He lacks experience, but will get it at LSU. Throws the deep ball well. I believe in tome you will be very pleased in Joe Burrow. Meyer was in love with J.T.Barrett or Burrow would have played a lot more



The people in here that think that the coaches aren't aware of and don't know Joe's strengths and weaknesses are funny. Joe is head and shoulders above what LSU is used to. This is going to be an exciting season.
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26607 posts
Posted on 7/12/18 at 8:29 am to
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They also recruited and signed Torrence Gibson that year
And? Everybody that recruited Gibson thought of him as an athlete, but knew they needed to get him in as a QB. Many predicted a huge year at WR before he screwed up.
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Size and strength sure. We just haven’t really seen those “skills” in an actual meaningful game or situation
I can understand what you are saying, but like it or not, he did play in those games vs people trying to stop him and scheme against him
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The major premise of his article is that Burrow was accurate in high school. What college QB recruit isn’t? He then has two clips from Burrow playing up 46 points vs. Bowling Green and up 52 points vs Maryland. Look I hope he’s incredible and wins the heisman and LSU goes undefeated but the hype on this kid who couldn’t beat out JT Barrret or Haskins is out of control.
I was cool with what you said until the last bit. Couldn't beat out Barrett? You mean the guy that rewrote Big 10 record books? The guy has 25 Ohio St records and several Big 10 records (including one that was owned by his now teammate Drew Brees). His numbers rival Tebow's. Hell, Cam Newton didn't beat out Tebow, (was there for two years) and you know the rest to that story.

Also not being able to beat out Haskins? Look, I know you guys barely pay attention to anything outside of the LSU bubble, but Haskins is legit. Lightning quick release, strong arm, extremely accurate, decently mobile, and ranked much higher than Burrow. The guy didn't want to risk not winning the job, so he left. Haskins has more eligibility and actually beat Michigan during the season.

Burrow didn't lose out to scrubs or average guys, hell, even above average guys. He lost out to a statistical juggernaut and didn't want to risk losing out to the guy who beat Michigan, and who NFL scouts are talking about with his pro potential. I know a lot of y'all are hesitant, and with good reason, but I'm buying one million percent into Burrow. Thank God he was coached under Urban Meyer's people. Combine that with his skillset and our talent, and he's going to be the best QB we've had since Russell.
Posted by oVo
Member since Dec 2013
11794 posts
Posted on 7/12/18 at 8:31 am to
Joe B didn’t win the job, he was handed the job. Hence why he’s here. He has no chest.
Posted by the_watcher
Jarule's House
Member since Nov 2005
3450 posts
Posted on 7/12/18 at 12:31 pm to
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And? Everybody that recruited Gibson thought of him as an athlete, but knew they needed to get him in as a QB. Many predicted a huge year at WR before he screwed up.

The post I responded to said Burrow was recruited above all other qb’s. I simply pointed out they signed another QB in the same class
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but like it or not, he did play in those games vs people trying to stop him and scheme against him

So Bowling Green and Maryland both said okay guys we need to scheme against this back up Joe Burrow just in case Ohio St. gets up by 7 or more touchdowns? It was meaningless garbage time clean up duty against back ups of severely terrible teams
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Couldn't beat out Barrett? You mean the guy that rewrote Big 10 record books? The guy has 25 Ohio St records and several Big 10 records (including one that was owned by his now teammate Drew Brees). His numbers rival Tebow's. Hell, Cam Newton didn't beat out Tebow, (was there for two years) and you know the rest to that story.

He played QB for 4 years, of course he will have some records. Why wasn’t he drafted if he was so incredible? Tebow and Cam Newton have nothing to do with this. Oh man Cam was good and he was a back up therefore that proves this guy Burrow who has never started will be good. Make a better argument, this is embarrassing
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Also not being able to beat out Haskins? Look, I know you guys barely pay attention to anything outside of the LSU bubble, but Haskins is legit

He couldn’t beat out Haskins LAST YEAR. Haskins was the back up as a RS Freshman. And yes he looked great against Michigan when Barrett got hurt. Weird I was able to see game from inside my “LSU bubble”
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I know a lot of y'all are hesitant, and with good reason, but I'm buying one million percent into Burrow

That’s abundantly clear. Look I hope he’s awesome and he might very well be. But there is nothing to suggest otherwise right now. Saying so is just blind delusion and hope
Posted by LSUMurple
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2011
907 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 10:50 pm to
Did you see the spring game num nutz.
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