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Let's revisit the Shaq/Stanley Roberts duo

Posted on 1/21/16 at 11:29 am
Posted by Honest Tune
Louisiana
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Posted on 1/21/16 at 11:29 am
Were they the best pair of 7 footers on the same team in the history of college basketball? It's rare to find one guy with their skill set, much less two. For those that were able to see Stanley play, was he as naturally talented as advertised?

Also, I know he battled some personal problems after he went to the NBA, but I recently did some research on him, and it seems like he has really pulled his life together and is happy and healthy.
Posted by jrodLSUke
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Posted on 1/21/16 at 11:33 am to
What really jumps out to me is that LSU fans couldn't wait to fire the most successful basketball coach in LSU history, in part because he should have won more with that much talent.

And now they want to do the same with football.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 1/21/16 at 11:41 am to
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For those that were able to see Stanley play, was he as naturally talented as advertised?


Very. Roberts was incredibly smooth for a big man, with a really nice offensive game. He could be powerful, but his game was more finesse and could play facing the basket. He was not the pure, raw, beast of an athlete Shaq was, but he was very talented.
Posted by rilesrick
Member since Mar 2015
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Posted on 1/21/16 at 11:41 am to
MelvinTurpin , Sam Bowie accomplished quite a it more hardware. If you're in to that stuff.
Posted by Paul Allen
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Posted on 1/21/16 at 11:44 am to
Do you even Alonzo Mourning and Deikembe Mutombo, bro?
Posted by Honest Tune
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
15523 posts
Posted on 1/21/16 at 11:48 am to
I remember that time Jordan posterized Melvin Turpin because a fan told him to dunk on someone bigger than Stockton.

To your point, however, yes, that is also a great choice of center combos. Turpin doesn't meet the 7' mark, but a great center nonetheless. Tragic ending he had for sure.
Posted by Honest Tune
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 1/21/16 at 11:50 am to
Alonzo is 6'10", but Shaq and Stanley were more talented than the two of them in my opinion.
Posted by 911Moto
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Posted on 1/21/16 at 11:51 am to
The Twin Towers from Kentucky say "Hello."
Posted by Paul Allen
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Posted on 1/21/16 at 11:54 am to
Ok. Shaquille, sure that's a fact. Stanley Roberts didn't do too much in NBA. Mutombo was one of the best defensive Centers that ever played.
Posted by Honest Tune
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 1/21/16 at 11:59 am to
Yes, he was incredible defensively, highly intelligent, and an all-around great human being for all he does for the poorer countries in Africa. Zo is great too, but was just curious about true 7' centers on the same college team.

Stanley let the night life derail his professional basketball career, unfortunately, so we don't have an adequate sample size from which to compare. However, Shaq's career is enough for two, so we can just split his stats
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 1/21/16 at 12:07 pm to
quote:

What really jumps out to me is that LSU fans couldn't wait to fire the most successful basketball coach in LSU history, in part because he should have won more with that much talent.


Dale was forced out cause he produced 4 straight yrs. of losing BB teams after 15 yrs. of NCAA tourney teams. I'm not going to pretend to know the why of it, but Dale allowed the bottom to drop out of LSU basketball. Dale has no one to blame for his ending at LSU, but Dale.

quote:

And now they want to do the same with football.


There is no reasonable comparison that can be made between Dale's last 4 yrs. at LSU and the last 4 yrs. of LSU football under Miles. It's night to day difference. imo

Posted by Keltic Tiger
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Posted on 1/21/16 at 12:42 pm to
In his book, Shaq said that Roberts was more talented than he was, but was just lazy, hated practice & many many mornings as Shaq was leaving for class Roberts would just be getting in from the night out. Brown even took to camping out in Robert's dorm room around curfew & Roberts still stayed out partying. Grade issues crept in eventually & that was what ended his college career.
Posted by Honest Tune
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
15523 posts
Posted on 1/21/16 at 12:51 pm to
The DGAF was strong with Stanley it sounds like.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 1/21/16 at 1:05 pm to
quote:

What really jumps out to me is that LSU fans couldn't wait to fire the most successful basketball coach in LSU history, in part because he should have won more with that much talent.


couldn't win the conference with a roster that included Chris Jackson, Shaq, Stanley Roberts, Vernel Singleton, Wayne Sims, and other good role players. Lost in 1st round of the SEC tourney and lost in the 2nd round of the NCAA tourney.

Come to whatever conclusion you want about the coaching of that team.
Posted by airfernando
Member since Oct 2015
15248 posts
Posted on 1/21/16 at 1:19 pm to
Shaq was very young and pretty raw. Stanley Roberts was fat and lazy. No, they were nowhere close to the best pair of 7 footers. Maybe had the greatest potential.
Posted by Honest Tune
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
15523 posts
Posted on 1/21/16 at 1:26 pm to
Stanley put on big weight in the NBA, but he was not fat at LSU.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28257 posts
Posted on 1/21/16 at 1:30 pm to
Roberts was the better prospect coming out of HS and had a much more refined offensive game than Shaq. In fact, I think even Brown thought (at the time) that Roberts was the future NBA star, not Shaq. Shaq didn't really have a great skill set when he first got to LSU. He was just big and athletic.

The problem is that Roberts didn't stay long at LSU, and while he was there, he was constantly in trouble for not going to class. He left right before his Junior season started because he was going to be ineligible anyway. Shaq and Stanley really didn't really play together all that often
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27369 posts
Posted on 1/21/16 at 2:28 pm to
Stanley did himself no favors by jumping early to the NBA. He needed at least one more year of seasoning before he could go and was told as much by Dale Brown and even Bill Walton.

Stanley had a really quick first step that could leave a defender looking at empty space in front of him especially in a post up position.

Stanley did love the night life though, He and Maurice Williamson were regulars at all the bars.
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
19265 posts
Posted on 1/21/16 at 3:07 pm to
Not only could Daddy Dale not win the conference with those players, it was a time when UK was on probation & was nowhere near what they used to or are now. Ga. & Vandy, WillfrickingPerdue won the conference 2 of those yrs as I recall.
Posted by tigernchicago
Alabama
Member since Sep 2003
5075 posts
Posted on 1/21/16 at 4:45 pm to
Bill Walton and Sven Nader played together at UCLA.

Walton answered a reporter after winning his last NCAA championship at UCLA that Nader was the toughest center he played against in college...
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