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re: Let’s play “Where did Nuss throw this ball”

Posted on 9/29/25 at 8:08 am to
Posted by NBForrest
Member since Nov 2024
112 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 8:08 am to
Found one still wearing the glasses.....
Manufactured hype is having the media power to basically have Nuss placed as one of the top QB's in the nation despite his on field play, a lot like Perkins, who's stats so far this year are not even worthy of 2nd team all sec much less all american.
Posted by KennytheTiger
bella vista ar
Member since Apr 2012
469 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 8:08 am to
The oline guys on the right are playing where is the dlineman.
Pitiful.
Posted by ColtTiger247
Jonesville
Member since May 2025
398 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 8:10 am to
And BK wouldn’t know from practice bc they don’t do a lot of team work and he’s ready to get to the golf course asap
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
36291 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 8:15 am to
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The oline guys on the right are playing where is the dlineman.



The ball has left Nuss’ hand and the d lineman is 2-3 yards away they did their job.


Also if Nuss STEPS UP the o line would be able to reengage.
This post was edited on 9/29/25 at 8:16 am
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
287824 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 8:19 am to
The ball is actually intended for Barion Brown. Zavion Thomas was the top WR, should have been the throw. Aaron Anderson was also behind his defender on the left side, as you can see


Posted by SteveLSU35
Shreveport
Member since Mar 2004
14800 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 8:20 am to
The 2 lineman saying LOOK OUT!!!! Is just as big of a problem as Nuss not seeing the field.

We just make everything hard, everything.......
Posted by Scotsdale84
Member since Mar 2025
44 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 8:23 am to
Zavion wasn't covered by 3 defenders. He was breaking open in the post route for a TD. Brown was the one targeted. If he puts ball up in endzone, Zavion catches TD non-contested.
Posted by Scotsdale84
Member since Mar 2025
44 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 8:24 am to
Sloan doesn't coach receivers.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
41876 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 8:28 am to
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The 2 lineman saying LOOK OUT!!!! Is just as big of a problem as Nuss not seeing the field.



There are multiple issues, for sure.
Posted by coolpapaboze
Parts Unknown
Member since Dec 2006
20303 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 8:30 am to
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His poor decision making is compounding the problem along with his inability to run

This is, IMHO, the bigger issue. We showed against Clemson we can win with a ball control offense, running screens, throwing over the middle. We don't need to rely on a vertical passing game to win. Nussmeier's decision making is abysmal, particularly for a fifth year player, in the second year starting at QB.

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Of those 3 things (decision making, running ability and arm talent), he has one. Take the arm talent away due to his oblique, and you have the product we see on the field

This is why I don't understand the talk about him being an NFL prospect, much less a first rounder. His decision making hasn't improved, he refuses to run, and now he can't throw, and he doesn't have Josh Allen type measurables. I just don't understand what NFL scouts would see here.
Posted by TeamLSU
Member since Feb 2009
3611 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 8:30 am to
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MVB won't be any better when 3 guys are getting pressure.


Yes he would because he is a THREAT to run when the pocket breaks down.
Posted by Gsgt24
Member since Oct 2022
766 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 8:32 am to
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The ball is actually intended for Barion Brown. Zavion Thomas was the top WR, should have been the throw. Aaron Anderson was also behind his defender on the left side, as you can see


And any coach who’s serious about winning a championship and doesn’t have their head up their arse would have pulled him at this moment because the pattern is now clear that he can not get the ball deep due to injury or lack of skill.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
36291 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 8:32 am to
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The 2 lineman saying LOOK OUT!!!! Is just as big of a problem as Nuss not seeing the field.



The ball WAS OUT and he’s 2-3 yards away. The line did their job.


Even if the ball wasn’t out he can step up in the pocket to buy time
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
71661 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 8:36 am to
Exactly. That’s why I don’t agree with people firmly saying it won’t make a difference with this offense. We won’t know unless we see it for ourselves. I believe it can make a difference. Not saying it will, but at least try.
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
71661 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 8:40 am to
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MVB won't be any better when 3 guys are getting pressure. Check out that shitty OL play


I doubt they would only rush three with a mobile QB. He’d run right around them.

Ole Miss was daring Nuss to run, because they knew he couldn’t. They got to drop everybody back in coverage. Let me see them do that with MVB. At least a mobile QB would make their jobs more difficult which could help the receivers get open.
Posted by Dupont3
Keithville
Member since Nov 2011
1934 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 8:44 am to
Obviously not a ball knower. There are two other issues with this picture that you don’t list but I’m guessing it doesn’t fit your narrative.

#1: We have two receivers running the same route in the same area. Is that terrible scheme or players running the wrong route? I’m not sure but either way it drastically changes the play and leads to point #2.

#2: This is a 2nd and 1 and they are rushing 3. That means once again they have 8 in coverage. Did Nuss play great? No but when the defense is getting pressure with 3 (on this play as well) and dropping 8 you have a recipe for disaster. We put too much pressure on Nuss to be perfect. Run the ball and give an obviously injured Nuss a chance.

Posted by bstew3006
318
Member since Dec 2007
12981 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 8:46 am to
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Yes he is. Watch the games. He can't make a simple go route throw 30-40 yards downfield even when winding up the hardest he can. He made those throws with no issue last year.


Since mid-season 2024, he’s been throwing off his back foot. Reports from camp said DLine dominating OL which has led to him continuing to throw off back foot. His “torso” or shoulder issue has killed any velocity on his throws and like you said, he can’t throw a 40yds.

OM showed everyone to run two high safeties and zone with only 3/4 man pressure. He can’t take to top off the defense and no worry about him scrambling.

If he’s truly that injured that he can’t throw 40yds, no velocity and no scrambling ability with a weak OL, LSU staff is killing this season and his draft stock. In 5 games, he’s gone from 1st round lock to 5/6 rounder.

They need to announce his injury and say he’s having surgery and put VB in. Staff and Nuss obviously thought he could just nickle and dime defenses, not make high risk throws (triple coverage) and would be able to still score 24-30pts and win every game bc how good the defense would be. Unfortunately, when you remove the SE game, offense is struggling to get to 18pts per game. The experiment has failed and time to shut him down for injury problems, let him rehab for draft. Everyone can see he’s not the same.
This post was edited on 9/29/25 at 8:53 am
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
287824 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 8:57 am to
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We have two receivers running the same route in the same area


There’s nothing wrong with this specific concept. They actually aren’t even that close

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This is a 2nd and 1 and they are rushing 3. That means once again they have 8 in coverage. Did Nuss play great? No but when the defense is getting pressure with 3 (on this play as well) and dropping 8 you have a recipe for disaster. We put too much pressure on Nuss to be perfect. Run the ball and give an obviously injured Nuss a chanc


There are 4 receivers on this play, and 3 of them are open. The play was fine and It’s coming to take a shot on 2nd&1
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
36291 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 9:02 am to
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but when the defense is getting pressure with 3 (on this play as well)



There is no pressure here.



The ball is out and there’s no defender within 3 yards of nuss.




Posted by SludgeFactory
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Jun 2025
2135 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 9:11 am to
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This is a 2nd and 1 and they are rushing 3.


No, this was first and 10 after we just had a nice play for a first down.

We had all the momentum and an opportunity to go up two scores early. This would have changed the entire dynamic of the game.

This INT and the Weeks PF were the two defining plays of the game. Both of these things we could see coming from miles away.

Nuss will lose more games making these plays and Weeks will give up more long drives with stupid penalties. They both can't help themselves.
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