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re: Les Miles Winning Percentage at LSU
Posted on 12/13/13 at 4:38 pm to Pennymoney
Posted on 12/13/13 at 4:38 pm to Pennymoney
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No it doesn't.
Yes, yes it does.
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Repeated buffonish clock management during a 2 minute drill isn't "Crap that happens".
Please list the "repeated buffoonish clock management during a 2 minute drill". I'll give you Ole Miss in 2009. That one is on Les. Hit me with some more though, if you don't mind. How about games we've won late? Ohhh you don't want to talk about those, do you?
I'm not even addressing the rest of your post because it's so mind-numingly stupid. Again I'll reittierate, though it's like trying to persuade a piece of sheetrock - shite HAPPENS. No one in here claims Les is immune to criticism. In fact, I've given you valid criticisms of Les. What's pathetic is that you refuse to give him a shred of credit to him or even begin to acknowledge the fact that he's the most succesful coach we've had in 120 years of organized football.
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Posted on 12/13/13 at 4:40 pm to Pennymoney
quote:Stop shitting on my school, sidewalk troll. Your facebook Like is my Alma Mater, and your opinions regarding it are valued by no one who has any involvement with LSU.
Pennymoney
Being an LSU fan is fun. Enjoy it, or add some crimson to your wardrobe.
Posted on 12/13/13 at 4:42 pm to ballscaster
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Being an LSU fan is fun. Enjoy it, or add some crimson to your wardrobe.
He doesn't even have to enjoy it, just don't try to ruin it for everyone else.
Posted on 12/13/13 at 4:45 pm to lsu2006
quote:He puts more effort in trying to get us to not like Les Miles than Rohan Davey put into the game-tying drive vs. Tennessee in 2000.
He doesn't even have to enjoy it, just don't try to ruin it for everyone else.
Posted on 12/13/13 at 4:52 pm to saintforlife1
Calm down..... We are o.k. with Les (for the most part). It's when he loses that really pisses me off! LOL
Posted on 12/13/13 at 4:54 pm to ballscaster
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Rohan Davey put into the game-tying drive vs. Tennessee in 2000.
SABAN fapfapfap
Posted on 12/13/13 at 5:00 pm to lsu2006
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Please list the "repeated buffoonish clock management during a 2 minute drill".
LOL. Are you serious? You can only think of 1?
Oh and I give Les plenty of credit. He took over the program having to follow in the second comings footsteps, and has been a great recruiter, and pretty good PR guy, runs a pretty clean program, and most of all he won a National Championship.
But things are off right now. It seemed like the Team was always ready to run through walls for the guy and I just don't see that happening the last few years.
And much worse, at crunch time things are off since that fiasco in the National Championship game.
How is it we consistently have all this NFL talent and aren't able to achieve what we're obviously capable of the last few years?
This year we didn't even come close. The W-L record and post season performance the last 3 years is undeniable.
Our performance against Ole Miss and Arkansas is inexcusable for the talent we have and the caliber team we want LSU to be and the money we're paying out to our coaching staff.
I know the last two seasons before this one we look great in so many games, but we also seem to struggle mightily against even the rent a wins, We can beat Auburn and A & M handily, but can't beat Ole Miss and give up against Bama when the game was tied in the second half, and have an enormous struggle against Arkansas.
There's no other answer than to lay all that on the coaches.
And I think we're breaking in too much key talent next year on offense, and we have an O-line coach that can't get his talent to live up to its potential, in the toughest division in football-an SEC West that's going to be tougher than ever with Ole Miss on the rise and Auburn back.
I see it getting worse before I see any chance of it getting better.
Posted on 12/13/13 at 5:17 pm to ballscaster
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buffonish clock management
2005 against UT, leaves a TO on the board and lets the clock run out of the first half when we are on the 24 yard line. We know how that game turned out.
2009 against UW. End of first half, UW is happy to run out the clock, Les calls TO's even though the best case scenario has us getting the ball inside the 20 with no TO's and about 15 seconds left. UW throws a long pass on 3rd and long, steals 3 points at the end of the half.
2009 Ole Miss, no explanation needed.
2010 UT JLee leads us down the field for a go ahead TD. With us ready to go ahead, Les sends in JJ to run the short side option. Obviously they had no idea that play wouldn't score because when it doesn't and we have no TO's and the clock is ticking with 20 seconds left, Les looks like a deer in the headlights. The wisest thing to do would obviously be to send in a bunch of players and substitute an entire package. If T-Bob doesn't snap the ball or if a UT coach could count, we lose that game on the one yard line.
2010 Alabama, we get a fumble recovery with about 7 minutes left or so. Les had no intention of passing it because we ran three straight dives. But for some reason, JJ is snapping the ball with 20 seconds left on the clock each time. We clinch the win on a 3rd and long pass by JLee but it never should have come to that.
2013 Ole Miss the Rebs set up for a game winning FG with over 20 seconds left on the clock. Les calls TO with 6 seconds left. Would those extra 14 seconds have gotten us the win, probably not, but we would have gotten a shot and everyone including the announcers was saying it.
I'm sure I could find more.
Posted on 12/13/13 at 6:10 pm to lsu2006
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lsu2006
Ugh. There's so much sunshine in you. Can't you just be a miserable frick like everyone else? Blahhhh
Posted on 12/13/13 at 6:42 pm to saintforlife1
quote:About the same as Marv Levy's with the Bills?
Les Miles Winning Percentage at LSU
This post was edited on 12/13/13 at 6:44 pm
Posted on 12/13/13 at 6:46 pm to saintforlife1
How many games has Les lost that he should have won verses how many games he has won where he did not have the best team? To me Saban shows how good he is in this area.
Posted on 12/13/13 at 7:06 pm to alajones
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2005 against UT, leaves a TO on the board and lets the clock run out of the first half when we are on the 24 yard line
The ball was at the 13 when Russel decided to run rather than throw the ball . The TO was held on to so we could use it to set up the FG. Believe it or not, but no one on the staff figured JR would try to run it in from the 13.
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If T-Bob doesn't snap the ball or if a UT coach could count, we lose that game on the one yard line.
One of the biggest myths in LSU fans rewrites. T-Bob snapped the ball with four seconds on the clock and to a QB looking at the 13 man Tennessee defense.
Anyway, that was on the OC taking 25 seconds to get the play and personal on the field. One reason he was let go.
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2009 against UW
Give me a break! LSU called TO with 45 seconds to go when Washington had a third and one from the Washington 29. No way that's poor time management.
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2010 Alabama, we get a fumble recovery with about 7 minutes left or so. Les had no intention of passing it because we ran three straight dives. But for some reason, JJ is snapping the ball with 20 seconds left on the clock each time. We clinch the win on a 3rd and long pass by JLee but it never should have come to that.
Christ! What a fricking reach.
Old Miss ok, but your other examples are BS!
Posted on 12/13/13 at 7:24 pm to classof72
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How many games has Les lost that he should have won verses how many games he has won where he did not have the best team? To me Saban shows how good he is in this area.
Uh, according to many on this site A&M was supposed to destroy us, so there is one from all of two games ago. Bit I'm guess you're not going to count it.
Posted on 12/13/13 at 7:36 pm to LSU Groupee
Do only clock screw ups matter? Shouldn't all the screw ups matter. EVERY freaking single weak I see coaches for teams not named LSU make stupid calls and you rarely ever hear much about it. But Les gets called on every PERCEIVED bad decision.
As predicted by anyone with more than half a brain Les Miles was going to have unreal expectations put on him after following a coach that lead LSU to a NC after decades of not even really competing for a top 10 spot much less a championship.
Can't you people see you have put the bar well above what any coach can measure clear.
How long has it been since Nick Satan screwed up? That's right one freaking game ago! Why doesn't that moron put anyone on the field that can move faster than 4 miles per hour? I knew there was a chance of a return... Auburn obviously knew there was a chance of a return... why didn't the moron half our fan base worships know?
Well I will tell you the truth. Saban was pissed off at his fg kicker. Saban pulled him and wanted to rub his nose in the victory by letting another kicker kick the long kick. Satan put all his fat guys to make sure it wasn't blocked. Satan's arrogance and spitefulness cost him that game.
As predicted by anyone with more than half a brain Les Miles was going to have unreal expectations put on him after following a coach that lead LSU to a NC after decades of not even really competing for a top 10 spot much less a championship.
Can't you people see you have put the bar well above what any coach can measure clear.
How long has it been since Nick Satan screwed up? That's right one freaking game ago! Why doesn't that moron put anyone on the field that can move faster than 4 miles per hour? I knew there was a chance of a return... Auburn obviously knew there was a chance of a return... why didn't the moron half our fan base worships know?
Well I will tell you the truth. Saban was pissed off at his fg kicker. Saban pulled him and wanted to rub his nose in the victory by letting another kicker kick the long kick. Satan put all his fat guys to make sure it wasn't blocked. Satan's arrogance and spitefulness cost him that game.
Posted on 12/13/13 at 7:39 pm to LSU Groupee
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Old Miss ok, but your other examples are BS!
This
Posted on 12/13/13 at 9:41 pm to LSU Groupee
quote:So...basically what I said happened did happen, except they were closer.
The TO was held on to so we could use it to set up the FG. Believe it or not, but no one on the staff figured JR would try to run it in from the 13.
quote:Right, they run the ball on third and one and how much time is left after we get the punt?
Give me a break! LSU called TO with 45 seconds to go when Washington had a third and one from the Washington 29. No way that's poor time management.
quote:My arse. You apologists are unreal. Tell me why if you know you have no intentions of passing would you not tell your QB to take the clock down to zero before every snap in that situation. A 12 year old who has played Madden a few times can manage a clock better.
Christ! What a fricking reach.
quote:Is that not what the frick I said? Are you seriously suggesting JJ knew there were 13 UT players on the field and wasn't completely clueless?
T-Bob snapped the ball with four seconds on the clock and to a QB looking at the 13 man Tennessee defense.
This post was edited on 12/13/13 at 9:47 pm
Posted on 12/13/13 at 9:55 pm to saintforlife1
Great recruiter, average coach, below average at cultivating talent, terrible game coach/management. Vomits incoherent babbling. Yeah he is loyal... but does loyal trump all of those? Ehhhh not sure
Posted on 12/13/13 at 9:57 pm to AlxTgr
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Should I now switch to: you mad?
For schizzle...
Posted on 12/14/13 at 12:11 am to alajones
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You apologists are unreal
Your examples but for Old Miss sucked. Saving a TO in hopes of kicking a FG was is not a bad call. Calling a TO with 45 seconds left when the other team is third and one at their 29 is not a bad call. Alabama got the ball back with 18 seconds, no TOs, and on their own 14. Any LSU fan complaining about how that game was played or coached is just someone looking for problems with a microscope.
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