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Les Miles never had the brains or balls to clean house like Kelly just did

Posted on 1/4/24 at 5:43 pm
Posted by Ping Pong
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Posted on 1/4/24 at 5:43 pm
LSU's entire offensive coaching staff should have been fired after the 2008, 2009, and 2010 seasons. Without Fournette and Guice, the same would be said about 2014 and 2015.

Miles' incompetence led to a decade of frustration. It may be a low bar to clear, but I'm glad Kelly can be credited with at least attempting to make adjustments.
Posted by LaBR4
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Posted on 1/4/24 at 5:44 pm to
Posted by Penrod
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Posted on 1/4/24 at 5:48 pm to
Les certainly had the brains and the balls, but there WAS something keeping him from replacing a weak offensive coordinator whom the game had passed up. My guess is that his personal loyalty to his good friend was greater than his desire to win big, but who knows.
Posted by High C
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Posted on 1/4/24 at 5:48 pm to
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Miles' incompetence led to a decade of frustration. It may be a low bar to clear


If a low bar includes a national championship, I’ll take it. Yes, watching a Les Miles offense became continuously more frustrating as the years went on, but you won’t see me kicking ole Leslie unless someone brings up 1/9.
Posted by FutureRATeammember
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Posted on 1/4/24 at 5:50 pm to
Les miles won a ring in his 3rd season here. Will kelly?
Posted by Shiftyplus1
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Posted on 1/4/24 at 5:54 pm to
Miles never wanted anything more offensively than a strong running game, a QB who could also run, and a passing game that was super conservative and didn't turn the ball over. He might have SAID he wanted to open it up, but he was never going to let it happen. 3 yards and a cloud of dust. That was his perfect offense and he was never going to change.
Posted by NOSA
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Posted on 1/4/24 at 5:55 pm to
Not with the current talent level on defense.
Posted by Melkor
Member since Sep 2022
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Posted on 1/4/24 at 5:59 pm to
First time in SEC history a team has a 3k passer, 1k rusher, and 2 1k recievers, but sure...
Posted by CatsGoneWild
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 1/4/24 at 6:01 pm to
People ripping on miles still amazes me. That guy gave us better records, better defenses, better recruiting classes and more title appearances than the 2 coaches after him combined
Posted by Godfather1
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Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 1/4/24 at 6:03 pm to
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Miles never wanted anything more offensively than a strong running game, a QB who could also run, and a passing game that was super conservative and didn't turn the ball over. He might have SAID he wanted to open it up, but he was never going to let it happen. 3 yards and a cloud of dust. That was his perfect offense and he was never going to change.


Bo Schembechler disciple. The game had long passed that style of offense by.
Posted by Ping Pong
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Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 1/4/24 at 6:06 pm to
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First time in SEC history a team has a 3k passer, 1k rusher, and 2 1k receivers, but sure...


I specifically didn't mention 2013. And to my point, that season occurred the first year under Cam Cameron. A new OC should have been hired years before, but instead Miles stuck with Crowton through 2010 and then promoted Oline coach Greg Studrawa in 2011, before finally making an outside hire for OC in 2013.
Posted by ipodking
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Posted on 1/4/24 at 6:12 pm to
Les hired the whole 2019 staff minus Busch
Posted by ATLTiger
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Posted on 1/4/24 at 6:16 pm to
He hired Kragthorpe who was an outside guy in 2011, he got sick and that’s when he promoted Stud.

Cam wasn’t that much of an outsider either, he’s Les’s best bud and they had similar philosophies.

Honestly, Les hiring Crowton after Jimbo left was a shocker. And that he let Crowton keep passing so much in 08 when it was clear JLee was int-prone
Posted by Hamma1122
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Posted on 1/4/24 at 6:19 pm to
Loyal to a fault
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 1/4/24 at 6:19 pm to
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Miles never wanted anything more offensively than a strong running game, a QB who could also run, and a passing game that was super conservative and didn't turn the ball over. He might have SAID he wanted to open it up, but he was never going to let it happen. 3 yards and a cloud of dust. That was his perfect offense and he was never going to change.


As Mike Gundy said when he was OC under Les, Les wouldn't do anything that didn't use 2 TE and a FB.

He played slow, jam-packed, big 10 fat boy football with a team deep with speed.

He had the worst offensive philosophy you can think of for the athletes he was bringing in to LSU. The years of ugly garbage offense permanently damaged the LSU fan base.

Maybe now with the 2019 and 2023 offenses they'll see the light and finally let go of the 2 yards and a cloud of dust offensive play style.

Lots here still reminisce about the 50 rushing attempts per game offense with maybe 15 passes.
This post was edited on 1/4/24 at 6:22 pm
Posted by DaBeerz
Member since Sep 2004
16905 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 6:19 pm to
Less miles was the offense, OC didn’t matter
Posted by TDsngumbo
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 1/4/24 at 6:21 pm to
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Les certainly had the brains and the balls, but there WAS something keeping him from replacing a weak offensive coordinator whom the game had passed up.

The guy who was the subject of multiple investigations into improper contact with and use of female students? Hmm, seems the possibilities could be endless in the blackmail material department.
This post was edited on 1/4/24 at 6:21 pm
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164082 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 6:22 pm to
Les never fired anyone. He suggested they take new jobs and he helped get them jobs at new schools. Kelly straight up fired these clowns and they deserved it.
Posted by ABJ2000
Member since Sep 2006
365 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 6:22 pm to
Les Miles

2005. 11 Wins
2006. 11 Wins
2007. 12 Wins Natty
2010. 11 Wins
2011. 13 Wins SEC Title
2012. 10 Wins
2013. 10 Wins

11+ Win Seasons since Les Miles……..1.

LSU is the First Team in SEC History with Two 1,000-Yard WRs and a 1,000-Yard RB in Same Season

Best Third Down Offenses In LSU History (Since 1977 when 3rd Downs were charted):
1. 2013 – 58.6 percent (82/140)
2. 2001 – 51.0 percent (100/196)
3. 2006 – 48.3 percent (70/145)


This post was edited on 1/4/24 at 8:25 pm
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164082 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 6:23 pm to
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2013. 10 Wins

You know it's 2024 now

Les started the decline
This post was edited on 1/4/24 at 6:24 pm
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