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re: LEE > Jamie Howard???

Posted on 7/14/08 at 12:33 pm to
Posted by danfraz
San Antonio TX
Member since Apr 2008
24550 posts
Posted on 7/14/08 at 12:33 pm to
Are the ones supporting Howard the same ones who trash the Great JaMarcus Russell? I could search but Im just too damn lazy
Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2005
32455 posts
Posted on 7/14/08 at 12:47 pm to
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Do you think Lee (The presumed starter) will be more like Jamie Howard
Don't insult our underclassmen like that.
Posted by clooneyisgod
Member since Feb 2006
7838 posts
Posted on 7/14/08 at 12:49 pm to
How can anyone answer this right now? What would such an answer be based upon?
Posted by ITtigah
Right around the corner
Member since Nov 2007
1081 posts
Posted on 7/14/08 at 12:57 pm to
Why in the hell would you even go there? JH sucked and Colt McCoy really isn't worth a frick either. Hopefully Lee's ability far surpasses the both of them combined
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56695 posts
Posted on 7/14/08 at 1:25 pm to
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Really? I thought Lee was a much better athlete and about 3 inches shorter.


stronger arm...not nearly as skinny...

They are nothing alike. Very poor comparison.
Posted by SpqrTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2004
9275 posts
Posted on 7/14/08 at 1:27 pm to
Who would you compare him to, Moneyg?
Posted by Dubaitiger
Abu Dhabi, UAE
Member since Nov 2005
4958 posts
Posted on 7/14/08 at 1:32 pm to
Saw Jamie 2 months ago and he is doing well. You people who say he sucks, sucks. He was thrown in to the wolves with no chance and he fought like hell
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81739 posts
Posted on 7/14/08 at 1:32 pm to
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the same ones who trash the Great JaMarcus Russell


Who does this? I've never seen that happen here.
Posted by ITtigah
Right around the corner
Member since Nov 2007
1081 posts
Posted on 7/14/08 at 1:43 pm to
wow. while JR was here there were so many rantards screaming for Flynn to start
Posted by roygu
Member since Jan 2004
11718 posts
Posted on 7/14/08 at 2:25 pm to
New offensive records, SEC Championship, and a National Championship. Retards?

Did Russell ever win a championship at any level?

You guys who puff out your chest about LSU winning a national championship and then dog Matt Flynn are worse fans than Howard was a football player.
This post was edited on 7/14/08 at 2:30 pm
Posted by LSU Jax
Gator Country Hell
Member since Sep 2006
8886 posts
Posted on 7/14/08 at 2:49 pm to
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Are the ones supporting Howard the same ones who trash the Great JaMarcus Russell?


Just had to work that angle in huh?

Posted by danfraz
San Antonio TX
Member since Apr 2008
24550 posts
Posted on 7/14/08 at 2:51 pm to
quote:

Just had to work that angle in huh?


Yes I did. A QB who was abso worthless being defended when one of the best QB's in the programs history is trashed on this site...bet your damn apples I brought it in...Do I need to tell you what to do with that finger? Better yet, put it where you normally put it when your sleeping with your dog
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
75275 posts
Posted on 7/14/08 at 2:56 pm to
More like Chad Loup.

Posted by LSU Jax
Gator Country Hell
Member since Sep 2006
8886 posts
Posted on 7/14/08 at 3:02 pm to
quote:

Yes I did. A QB who was abso worthless being defended when one of the best QB's in the programs history is trashed on this site...bet your damn apples I brought it in...Do I need to tell you what to do with that finger? Better yet, put it where you normally put it when your sleeping with your dog


Posted by MiketheTiger69
Moore/Norman, Oklahoma
Member since Jan 2004
3315 posts
Posted on 7/14/08 at 3:16 pm to
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Yes I did. A QB who was abso worthless being defended when one of the best QB's in the programs history is trashed on this site...bet your damn apples I brought it in...Do I need to tell you what to do with that finger? Better yet, put it where you normally put it when your sleeping with your dog



Chicken, can we PLEASE, PLEASE, get some bonehead dumbass icons for boneheaded dumbasses like this?! And also we need a few for those who aren't smart enough to understand the difference between a couple of bad coaches (Amedee and Hallman) putting a good kid (Howard) and a team in a lousy situation which resulted in RECEIVERS dropping/deflecting passes that result in int's for td's.
Posted by Lou
Modesto, CA
Member since Aug 2005
8290 posts
Posted on 7/14/08 at 3:24 pm to
quote:

who was the QB who threw 4 ints for TDs
he threw 5 ints in the 4th quarter, and 3 of them were for TD's. yes, that was atrocious, but LSU was terrible from 91-94. Auburn was exceptionally good. In 93 they went 11-0, in 94 they went 9-1-1. When LSU played them, Auburn had a 13 game winning streak - LSU had no business even being close to Auburn for that game. The fact that Howard was even in a position to throw TD's to lose that game actually shows that he had some talent, despite being on a horrible team. Even after the two TD's that tied the game 23-23, Howard still drove down the field to take the lead 26-23. And even after the third TD to trail 30-23, he led them back down the field with less than two minutes left, before throwing the last TD in the end zone with 12 seconds left.

No, Howard was not that great, but people act like LSU had a national championship team and Howard showed up and choked it away. That was not the case at all. He was a decent (C+ to B-) QB at best who probably would have fared better with more talent to surround him, and a better coach to help him develop.

But for those of you who act like he's the worst QB LSU ever had because of that one game, you're sorely misinformed.
This post was edited on 7/14/08 at 3:25 pm
Posted by danfraz
San Antonio TX
Member since Apr 2008
24550 posts
Posted on 7/14/08 at 3:36 pm to
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Chicken, can we PLEASE, PLEASE, get some bonehead dumbass icons for boneheaded dumbasses like this?! And also we need a few for those who aren't smart enough to understand the difference between a couple of bad coaches (Amedee and Hallman) putting a good kid (Howard) and a team in a lousy situation which resulted in RECEIVERS dropping/deflecting passes that result in int's for td's.


Chicken can you please create something, maybe a black hole, for people who continue to support Jamie Howard? He sure was a nice guy and a lousy QB
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 7/14/08 at 4:56 pm to
quote:

Are the ones supporting Howard the same ones who trash the Great JaMarcus Russell? I could search but Im just too damn lazy


Laziness isn't your biggest problem.

For what it's worth, since you were responding to my post, and since I did express support for Jamie Howard, I can certainly answer your question. Hell no, I did not trash Jamarcus Russell. I think he might be the greatest quarterback we ever had.

I just don't understand people like you who can't accept that, when talking about two LSU players, it's possible to support both, and supporting one does not obligate you to trash the other.

Jamarcus Russell, Matt Flynn, Matt Mauck, Rohan Davey, Josh Booty, Herb Tyler and Jamie Howard were ALL good quarterbacks for LSU, although all faced very different circumstances with different levels of talent around them, different coaches to teach them and they obviously had different levels of ability, so they produced different results. But they were ALL Tigers and I am proud of ALL of them.

Why's that so hard for people like you?
Posted by Roaad
White Privilege Broker
Member since Aug 2006
76570 posts
Posted on 7/14/08 at 4:57 pm to
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Lee (The presumed starter)
you presume too much. Hatch will be the starter.
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
31929 posts
Posted on 7/14/08 at 4:58 pm to
Jamie was awfully talented, but I thought Chad Loupe got more of a shaft by the coaches than anybody. To see Curley chastise the defense for even touching Jamie in practice then to see Chad leveled one play later without the slightest word......pathetic display of a dishonorable man/men. WIthout a doubt, the biggest victims of the Hallman era were the players.

Hurts to read some fans on this board speak so badly of some of these kids......I played with some of them, I lived with some of them, and they never had a chance. Many came with dreams and left with boos.
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