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Lawrence Vs. Hurts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 8:29 am
Posted on 1/2/20 at 8:29 am
Going into Oklahoma game many pundits talked about the major concern being Jalen Hurts and what he could do against LSU if he had a good game. He was a Heisman finalist an had shown he could beat LSU at Alabama. He also was a passing/running threat.
How does Lawrence compare? He is bigger for sure, but does not seem as fast. He does seem to be equal in the throwing category and he has the most recent experience in the title game as well. Are Clemson receivers better than Oklahoma? They seem to have a better runner.
How does Lawrence compare? He is bigger for sure, but does not seem as fast. He does seem to be equal in the throwing category and he has the most recent experience in the title game as well. Are Clemson receivers better than Oklahoma? They seem to have a better runner.
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Posted on 1/2/20 at 8:30 am to winkchance
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He does seem to be equal in the throwing category
If you think Trevor Lawrence and Jalen Hurts are equal as passers then I'm not sure this one can be explained to you
Posted on 1/2/20 at 8:30 am to winkchance
quote:
He does seem to be equal in the throwing category
false
Posted on 1/2/20 at 8:35 am to winkchance
quote:
He does seem to be equal in the throwing category
WAT
Posted on 1/2/20 at 8:35 am to winkchance
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, but does not seem as fast. He does seem to be equal in the throwing category and he has the most recent experience in the title game as well. Are Clemson receivers better than Oklahoma?
He is as fast as Hurts is, but takes an extra step or two to get to full speed.
TLaw IS more accurate than Hurts, but throws an occasional trash ball. He will be crisp against us, but I think he might be apprehensive and tight. Once he gets loose, he will be a problem...just as OSU saw.
Ceedee Lamb is as good (I think better) as Clemson's top 2 guys, but there's a huge drop after him. Etienne is a deadly weapon like CEH.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 8:36 am to winkchance
Both Jalen and Trevor have similar completion percentage but I've never been impressed with Jalen's accuracy. Trevor on the other hand is more accurate but has more intentional throw aways. In other words Trevor seems more in command of the game. Jalen is a better runner but as you know Trevor can use his feet effectively too.
I believe OSU was taken by surprise by Trevor's running ability because he is not known as a "running" QB. LSU was prepared for Jalen running ability. LSU will be prepared for Trevor's running ability.
I believe OSU was taken by surprise by Trevor's running ability because he is not known as a "running" QB. LSU was prepared for Jalen running ability. LSU will be prepared for Trevor's running ability.
This post was edited on 1/2/20 at 8:52 am
Posted on 1/2/20 at 8:37 am to winkchance
TL>>>>>>>>>>JH in throwing.
The rest is a wash.
The rest is a wash.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 8:39 am to winkchance
Lawrence is a much better passer than Hurts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 8:39 am to winkchance
Best comp to Lawrence is Justin Herbert from Oregon.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 8:42 am to Zanzibaw
I am only going on statistics, but you clearly have personal information that requires that you respond like a douche.
JH Comp 69.7 yds 3851 TD 32 Int 8
TL Comp 67.6 yds 3431 TD 36 Int 8
JH Comp 69.7 yds 3851 TD 32 Int 8
TL Comp 67.6 yds 3431 TD 36 Int 8
Posted on 1/2/20 at 8:43 am to Zanzibaw
quote:
He does seem to be equal in the throwing category
No way, TL is 10X the passing QB. Hurts is way to inaccurate to be an NFL QB at this point.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 8:44 am to winkchance
quote:
He does seem to be equal in the throwing category
No dude. Just no. It’s not even close.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 8:47 am to winkchance
quote:Then you’re gonna be wrong. Everything requires context. Statistics don’t always tell the whole truth.
I am only going on statistics
Jalen Hurts entered the Peach bowl with 51 total touchdowns, the same as Joe Burrow. That doesn’t mean they’re equally as effective.
Trevor is a legit NFL quality passer. Elite arm talent, maybe the best arm we’ve seen this decade. It’s him or Andrew Luck.
Jalens nowhere near him in arm talent.
It’s honestly like comparing Peyton Manning and Taysom Hill.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 8:47 am to FreddieMac
"No way, TL is 10X the passing QB. Hurts is way to inaccurate to be an NFL QB at this point." FreddieMac
Clearly he is not.
JH Comp 69.7 yds 3851 TD 32 Int 8
TL Comp 67.6 yds 3431 TD 36 Int 8
Clearly he is not.
JH Comp 69.7 yds 3851 TD 32 Int 8
TL Comp 67.6 yds 3431 TD 36 Int 8
Posted on 1/2/20 at 8:48 am to winkchance
quote:
I am only going on statistics, but you clearly have personal information that requires that you respond like a douche.
Well then say "it looks like they have similar passing stats" and don't act like you're breaking down game film. If you had watched them both it doesn't take much to see that Lawrence throws the ball like an NFL QB. Hurts is far from that.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 8:50 am to winkchance
Have you actually watched the games or are you just gonna keep throwing out their statistics?
Do you think Anthony Gordon is better than Joe Burrow?
You want people to tell you the difference and your pissed because they are.
Jalens a much better runner. Trevor is a great runner and has a much better arm.
Why do you think that Jalens a projected 5th rounder and Trevor would have went first overall in last years draft as a true freshman?
Do you think Anthony Gordon is better than Joe Burrow?
You want people to tell you the difference and your pissed because they are.
Jalens a much better runner. Trevor is a great runner and has a much better arm.
Why do you think that Jalens a projected 5th rounder and Trevor would have went first overall in last years draft as a true freshman?
Posted on 1/2/20 at 8:52 am to Solo Cam
"Then you’re gonna be wrong. Everything requires context. Statistics don’t always tell the whole truth." Solo Cam
So the fact that JH has more yardage passing against better defenses is some context for you.
"It’s honestly like comparing Peyton Manning and Taysom Hill." Solo Cam
Really?
So the fact that JH has more yardage passing against better defenses is some context for you.
"It’s honestly like comparing Peyton Manning and Taysom Hill." Solo Cam
Really?
Posted on 1/2/20 at 8:54 am to winkchance
For one thing, TL is a way better qb from the standpoint of reading defenses and throwing the football (lot more accurate, bigger arm). Nothing against Hurts, seems like a good kid, don't think he'll make it as a qb in the NFL unless he's able to run an offense similar to what he runs now and what Baltimore is doing with Lamar Jackson.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 8:55 am to winkchance
Change your handle to yoursayintheresachance.
Then post the stats one more time......
Then post the stats one more time......
Posted on 1/2/20 at 8:55 am to Solo Cam
Here’s an honest breakdown:
Trevors a much better passer. Legit NFL, top 5 arm strength the day he gets drafted. He’s an extremely effective runner that will likely post a 4.6 40. He’s fearless and doesn’t get rattled.
Clemson has a deeper receiving Corp for sure. Ceedee is better than Higgins and Ross but together they’re much more lethal than just a Ceedee and Trevor will make throws to them that Jalen simply can’t.
Etienne is a much better running back than OUs guy. Legit track speed with entire vision and balance. Gets north-south quickly and once his shoulders are square the only two kids on our defense that can catch him are Kary and Stingley.
This offense is lethal. Go watch last years national title if you need some context.
Trevors a much better passer. Legit NFL, top 5 arm strength the day he gets drafted. He’s an extremely effective runner that will likely post a 4.6 40. He’s fearless and doesn’t get rattled.
Clemson has a deeper receiving Corp for sure. Ceedee is better than Higgins and Ross but together they’re much more lethal than just a Ceedee and Trevor will make throws to them that Jalen simply can’t.
Etienne is a much better running back than OUs guy. Legit track speed with entire vision and balance. Gets north-south quickly and once his shoulders are square the only two kids on our defense that can catch him are Kary and Stingley.
This offense is lethal. Go watch last years national title if you need some context.
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