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Posted on 6/16/15 at 6:51 pm to Steamy Ray
quote:Laxton was 12-1 with a 1.98 ERA as a freshman and pitched a complete game shutout in the championship game.
Lange is unquestionably the best freshman pitcher in LSU history.
He did this in an era of big time offense.
Lange may be better, but it's ridiculous to say "unquestionably" the best
Posted on 6/16/15 at 7:00 pm to SonOfAGun
Matty Ott as a freshman was absolute nails. Lange is solid as well.
Posted on 6/16/15 at 7:10 pm to Pilot Tiger
Lange is 12-0 with a 1.97 era. He has 131k in 114ip compared to Laxton's 98k in 109ip. You put the numbers together and I think it's clear Lange is better as a freshman
Posted on 6/16/15 at 7:12 pm to Steamy Ray
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Lange is 12-0 with a 1.97 era. He has 131k in 114ip compared to Laxton's 98k in 109ip. You put the numbers together and I think it's clear Lange is better as a freshman
You're ignoring the era Laxton pitched in. Different bats, steroids, etc.
Posted on 6/16/15 at 7:14 pm to Steamy Ray
I love that we can even have this debate.
Posted on 6/16/15 at 7:14 pm to JustSmokin
I'll acknowledge that where I should have before. Still, Lange's strikeout numbers are much better and all I'll take back is the "unquestionably" statement
Posted on 6/16/15 at 7:18 pm to Steamy Ray
quote:
You put the numbers together and I think it's clear Lange is better as a freshman
I think you're completely ignoring the kinds of advantages hitters had back then.
And even so, their numbers aren't THAT different from each other
Posted on 6/16/15 at 9:02 pm to lsumatt
quote:this.
by lsumatt Chris Jackson.
Posted on 6/16/15 at 9:12 pm to Pilot Tiger
quote:THIS! 16K's in a NCG seems a little more impressive, but in this ESPN generation of having to make a fricking list for everything, let the OP have fun, smh.
Laxton was 12-1 with a 1.98 ERA as a freshman and pitched a complete game shutout in the championship game.
He did this in an era of big time offense.
Lange may be better, but it's ridiculous to say "unquestionably" the best
Posted on 6/16/15 at 9:20 pm to JustSmokin
Today was impressive for Lange, but it will be hard for anyone , not just freshman to top Laxtons effort in the championship game. Biggest game of the year, against a good hitting Wichita State, and to go out there as a freshman and throw a complete game shutout and strike out 16, may be the greatest pitching performance in LSU history. I think because of this Laxton gets a slight edge of Lange, Lange could still have a game like Laxton but we have to get to the championship.
This post was edited on 6/16/15 at 9:21 pm
Posted on 6/16/15 at 9:22 pm to catholictigerfan
OP has probably never heard of Laxton.
Posted on 6/16/15 at 9:42 pm to catholictigerfan
quote:
by catholictigerfan
Great points. I do think it's possible to have a better single game but not have an overall better season. Lange's total body of work is dang impressive.
Posted on 6/16/15 at 10:11 pm to catholictigerfan
reserving judgment for now, it's apples and oranges until Lange gets hardware
Posted on 6/16/15 at 10:15 pm to white beans
Just curious, how did Laxton end up doing at the next level? Did he make it to the big league?
Posted on 6/16/15 at 10:30 pm to supadave3
handful of mlb appearances
Posted on 6/16/15 at 10:40 pm to supadave3
Looking at the overall talent in the SEC today compared to back when Laxton pitched, an argument can be made that even with the weaker bats, hitters in todays SEC are better. Both had phenomenal freshman years, but my vote goes to Lange.
This post was edited on 6/16/15 at 10:44 pm
Posted on 6/16/15 at 10:41 pm to SonOfAGun
Yes. No doubt about it
Posted on 6/17/15 at 12:06 am to SonOfAGun
????
Posted on 6/17/15 at 1:30 am to ForeverLSU02
Lane Mestepey was very good as a freshman Lange has been better but. Brett Laxton has.the next best thing to Warren Morris in LSU Baseball.History with the Shutout of Wichita State in 1993.
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