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Posted on 11/21/25 at 5:30 pm to Madking
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Orgeron wasn’t a coordinator and I’m wondering why you think the coach needs to fit into a certain box? Just get the best possible person for the job regardless of silly qualifiers. Who would you want?
I'll take Glenn Schumann...Georgia defensive coordinator. Learned under Saban and Smart. Has won multiple Nattys. And knows the SEC through and through and is only 35 years old. And wouldnt cost you a big contract.
This post was edited on 11/21/25 at 5:32 pm
Posted on 11/21/25 at 5:31 pm to WMTigerFAN
He can actually coach the game which would be an upgrade from the last 3 guys. You hire him a top flight DC and you’re gonna be a perennial playoff contender.
Posted on 11/21/25 at 5:32 pm to TechDawg2007
And he will retain frank
Posted on 11/21/25 at 5:33 pm to DesertCajun
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Why would ole miss make a statement that allows LSU and Florida to, move on
The chaos that’ll be this week is way worse….delaying LSU and UF a week doesn’t do anything. At all.
Hell both school are probably working on contingencies anyway. That’s how this works.
Posted on 11/21/25 at 5:34 pm to IrishDave
Ok, that’s fair, makes sense. Are you just automatically opposed to Kiffin for some reason?
Posted on 11/21/25 at 5:38 pm to Madking
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Ok, that’s fair, makes sense. Are you just automatically opposed to Kiffin for some reason?
I just think Kiffin isn't all that the hype is making out to be. I mean just look at Schumann....no one mentions him and he has a hell of a resume. He was actually Kirby Smarts first hire when he took the Georgia gig. Schumann was his #1 priority for his coaching staff. The Philapelphia Eagles also interviewed him to be their defensive coordinator be he said he wanted to stay at Georgia. The dude is only 35 and hes got nowhere to go but up. This is a LSU type hire not Lane Kiffin.
This post was edited on 11/21/25 at 5:39 pm
Posted on 11/21/25 at 5:43 pm to IrishDave
The hype is warranted though, he’s winning at Ole Miss. You’re using a coordinator resume to highlight Schuman while ignoring Kiffin’s coordinator resume. Schuman gets the luxury of never being a HC so he can’t be criticized on that front. Uneven comparative model you’re using here.
Posted on 11/21/25 at 5:44 pm to DesertCajun
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Why would ole miss make a statement that allows LSU and Florida to, move on
Why would, going into the biggest regular season game in Ole Miss history, with Ole Miss on the brink of earning their first ever playoff appearance not do everything to assure their players, their fans, their boosters, & their recruits that the leader of their program is locked in and laser focused, and will be the leader of their program for the foreseeable future.
Ole Miss has everything to lose and nothing to gain if the intention by Kiffin is to Stay and they don’t make it public.
Posted on 11/21/25 at 5:53 pm to Madking
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The hype is warranted though, he’s winning at Ole Miss. You’re using a coordinator resume to highlight Schuman while ignoring Kiffin’s coordinator resume. Schuman gets the luxury of never being a HC so he can’t be criticized on that front. Uneven comparative model you’re using here.
Actually that is my point....youre cherry pickin' here....you mention Ole Miss but not all the other places Kiffin has been head coach and failed....hell, he failed so bad at USC....he couldnt even get another head coaching job. He had to take a coordinator job and then settle for a head coaching job at Florida Atlantic. Lets see what Schumann can do as a head coach instead of a 5 time head coach with a shite resume.
This post was edited on 11/21/25 at 5:54 pm
Posted on 11/21/25 at 5:59 pm to TechDawg2007
The AD may have asked for extra time to try to match an offer.
Posted on 11/21/25 at 6:00 pm to IrishDave
So Orgeron’s OM stint is ignored, crippling LSU is ignored, you pass him off as a coordinator when he wasn’t one, Schumman is judged by being a coordinator who doesn’t run that defense but we’re ignoring Kiffin’s coordinator history and OM record and I’m the one cherry picking? Oh you’re a peach.
This post was edited on 11/21/25 at 6:02 pm
Posted on 11/21/25 at 6:04 pm to SaintLSU
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How many Big 10 titles have Nick Saban won at Michigan State before LSU hired him.
How many SEC titles had Kirby won before Georgia hired him.
How many ACC titles did Dabo win when Clemson hired him.
2 of those 3 had never been an HC before. Kiffin has had tons of chances. JFC that post got 15 upvotes our fanbase is retarded
Posted on 11/21/25 at 6:10 pm to Madking
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So Orgeron’s OM stint is ignored, crippling LSU is ignored, you pass him off as a coordinator when he wasn’t one, Schumman is judged by being a coordinator who doesn’t run that defense but we’re ignoring Kiffin’s coordinator history and OM record and I’m the one cherry picking? Oh you’re a peach.
Still waiting for you or anyone to show me where Kiffin has won a thing as a 5 time head coach.
Posted on 11/21/25 at 6:11 pm to Madking
I’m not necessarily on the Lane train but I do believe coaches can mature and develop just like players. Thought Orgeron had done that but post 2019 proved he hadn’t. And he’s had more losing seasons than winning it he struck lightning in 2019. So I can look at Ole Miss and see what he’s done there and hope it translates at LSU. Based on everyone out there at this time there’s no one else that screams can’t miss. I’m good with Lane but won’t be the end of the world if he stays.
Posted on 11/21/25 at 6:12 pm to SaintLSU
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If I can recall Saban had 2 and he didn’t win shite at either spot
He was HC at Kent State and then Michigan State prior to LSU.
Michigan State was coming off probation.
Posted on 11/21/25 at 6:13 pm to TechDawg2007
*expected
Posted on 11/21/25 at 6:13 pm to IrishDave
Give me whatever HC has the best success with QBs at LSU.
We've seen what LSU can do with great QB play.
We've seen what LSU can do with great QB play.
Posted on 11/21/25 at 6:14 pm to mcspufftiger7
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I’m not necessarily on the Lane train but I do believe coaches can mature and develop just like players. Thought Orgeron had done that but post 2019 proved he hadn’t. And he’s had more losing seasons than winning it he struck lightning in 2019. So I can look at Ole Miss and see what he’s done there and hope it translates at LSU. Based on everyone out there at this time there’s no one else that screams can’t miss. I’m good with Lane but won’t be the end of the world if he stays.
But is he 14-15 mil/yr good? I mean LSU just gave Brian Kelly a 100 million dollar contract and hes done a hell of a lot more as a head coach than Lane Kiffin has. Notre Dame made the National Championship game under Kelly....Kiffin cant even win a conference championship.
Posted on 11/21/25 at 6:15 pm to SaintLSU
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How many Big 10 titles have Nick Saban won at Michigan State before LSU hired him.
How many SEC titles had Kirby won before Georgia hired him.
How many ACC titles did Dabo win when Clemson hired him.
I mean.. only one of these guys was a head coach before taking the job you listed.
Dabo didn’t even crack the top 50 highest salaries when he was promoted to HC at Clemson.
Kirby had 4 national titles, 4 SEC titles, and 6 SECw division titles as a DC when UGA hired him… as the 23rd-highest paid coach in the country.
Saban had the highest (relative to the market) salary of that group when hired by LSU. But he had a national title, 2 SEC titles, and 3 SECw division titles before LSU made him the highest-paid coach in college football. And he turned out to be the GOAT so probably not a super reasonable expectation.
I think Kiffin is probably the best candidate on the board right now, but I’m not sure that means it makes sense to go get him at any cost.
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