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Kick the ball out the end zone
Posted on 10/24/16 at 8:53 pm
Posted on 10/24/16 at 8:53 pm
Why can't we kick the ball out of the end zone like most other teams. Gamble seems to struggle but freshman Conner culp I have heard has a very powerful leg. Sorry if this has been brought up but this is irritating. Geaux Tigers!
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Posted on 10/24/16 at 8:56 pm to frog legs
Great observation. I wonder who can answer that question?
Posted on 10/24/16 at 8:57 pm to frog legs
We're 13th in the country in kickoff defense, giving up only 17 yards a return and no TD. I can't even remember a time when the other team even threatened to break one. Once we stopped kicking it out of bounds, there doesn't seem to be a big downside to kicking it to the goal line and letting our guys cover and make a play.
Posted on 10/24/16 at 8:57 pm to frog legs
Bama always makes big plays on special teams. We need to get it together on kickoffs and kickoff/punt coverage. Also, our kickoff returns were terrible this week. We need to do much better. Other than those things, I thought we played very well. And our punter has gotten much better.
This post was edited on 10/24/16 at 10:32 pm
Posted on 10/24/16 at 9:00 pm to frog legs
How many times does this have to be asked and answered? The pooch kick is being used by a lot of teams now because of the 25-yard line rule. The hope is that we pooch it inside the 10 and the coverage gets there before the returner gets to the 25. Gamble can (and has in games) kick it into the end zone.
Posted on 10/24/16 at 9:16 pm to DBU
Some coach was talking about that this weekend on how some teams take the risk of either a hold or a block in the back penalty.
Posted on 10/24/16 at 9:17 pm to frog legs
quote:We can, but that's a bad strategy.
Why can't we kick the ball out of the end zone
Posted on 10/24/16 at 9:29 pm to frog legs
Several posts have made good points. It's a matter of statistics. If my coverage team can usually get there before the returner breaks a long one, I would rather give the other team the ball on the 20 four times and the 35 once, than five times on the 25. There must be some stats somewhere that would correlate average score per possession with starting field position.
Posted on 10/24/16 at 9:53 pm to OldManRiver
Once we stopped kicking it out of bounds???
That is the reason we are 17th in kickoff return yards because when you kick it out of bounds there is no return yardage. We stop Ole Miss one time inside the 25 (at the 15) they got to or past the 25 every other time.
That is the reason we are 17th in kickoff return yards because when you kick it out of bounds there is no return yardage. We stop Ole Miss one time inside the 25 (at the 15) they got to or past the 25 every other time.
Posted on 10/24/16 at 11:08 pm to AlxTgr
Kicking out of the end zone is such a bad strategy that it is used by 100% of the NFL teams. Yeah, what do they know.
Posted on 10/24/16 at 11:22 pm to DBU
Even Denver was doing that tonight when McManus can literally kick it into the 10th row in that altitude. Pinned em well inside the 25 each time.
Posted on 10/24/16 at 11:23 pm to Icansee4miles
You haven't watched the NFL much this year right? Touchbacks are way down.
Posted on 10/25/16 at 12:39 am to Icansee4miles
quote:
Kicking out of the end zone is such a bad strategy that it is used by 100% of the NFL teams. Yeah, what do they know.
Well except the patriots
And several other NFL teams. Don't watch much NFL football?
Posted on 10/25/16 at 12:53 am to OldSarge38
quote:
We stop Ole Miss one time inside the 25 (at the 15) they got to or past the 25 every other time.
Ole Miss' starting field position off of kickoffs was:
27
15
25
25 (touchback)
30
26
21
Average starting position of the 24 yard line. So it worked.
Posted on 10/25/16 at 12:59 am to frog legs
quote:
rog legs
Kick the ball out the end zone
Why can't we kick the ball out of the end zone like most other teams. Gamble seems to struggle...
THIS!
Posted on 10/25/16 at 5:32 am to DBU
quote:
How many times does this have to be asked and answered? The pooch kick is being used by a lot of teams now because of the 25-yard line rule. The hope is that we pooch it inside the 10 and the coverage gets there before the returner gets to the 25. Gamble can (and has in games) kick it into the end zone.
Yes, we all understand the pooch concept, but there is still a risk of a big return. I'd just blast it out of the end zone and remove all risk. The extra 5 or so yards we get by tackling them inside the 25 using worth it.
Posted on 10/25/16 at 6:02 am to Golfer
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Average starting position of the 24 yard line. So it worked.
I understand both sides of the argument. However, with every kickoff return, there is not only a chance that they exceed the 25 yard line, but house it. With a touchback, you are absolutely guaranteed that there will not be a score and they start no better than the 25. As conservative as Miles was, I'm surprised he tried the corner kick so often.
ETA: I would like to see the difference in the outcome of drives that start at the 25 vs the 20 etc.
This post was edited on 10/25/16 at 6:07 am
Posted on 10/25/16 at 6:34 am to Icansee4miles
quote:I don't watch the NFL, but if you want your opponent to have better starting field position, by all means kick it out of the endzone.
Kicking out of the end zone is such a bad strategy that it is used by 100% of the NFL teams. Yeah, what do they know
Posted on 10/25/16 at 6:39 am to frog legs
quote:
Kick the ball out the end zone
I am by no means a special teams guru, but our guys have allowed next to nothing in return yards. Why not try to put a big hit on the return man and force a fumble? There is 100% no chance of that when the ball sails out the endzone.
Just an observation.
Posted on 10/25/16 at 6:46 am to Croozin2
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However, with every kickoff return, there is not only a chance that they exceed the 25 yard line, but house it.
There's also a chance the return team fumbles.
This post was edited on 10/25/16 at 6:47 am
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