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Kelly might not be the guy - but for different reasons
Posted on 9/29/25 at 11:21 am
Posted on 9/29/25 at 11:21 am
We're all aware of the conventional gripes about Kelly. But this is actually a unique point in time: the rise of NIL and all that. And Kelly might be uniquely poorly suited for the new era.
We all know Saban saw the writing on the wall and left.
I predict that successful coaches going forward will be much more like influencers than actual football coaches. Kiffin might be a tad too old, but he definitely seems pretty fit for where we're headed. All that shite with the dunking on the sidelines and the fire extinguishers. Snarky tweeting, etc.
I think 10 years ago, Kelly might have been a great fit at LSU. But now, I just don't see how a 60-something dude from the midwest with a limited sense of humor can possibly successfully navigate what the sport has become. It's less an observation about him and more about the new system all teams are swimming in.
We all know Saban saw the writing on the wall and left.
I predict that successful coaches going forward will be much more like influencers than actual football coaches. Kiffin might be a tad too old, but he definitely seems pretty fit for where we're headed. All that shite with the dunking on the sidelines and the fire extinguishers. Snarky tweeting, etc.
I think 10 years ago, Kelly might have been a great fit at LSU. But now, I just don't see how a 60-something dude from the midwest with a limited sense of humor can possibly successfully navigate what the sport has become. It's less an observation about him and more about the new system all teams are swimming in.
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Posted on 9/29/25 at 11:22 am to Big Scrub TX
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a 60-something dude from the midwest
He is from Massachusetts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 11:22 am to Big Scrub TX
We’re closer than not right now with Kelly. He just needs to hire a real OC, give the hire autonomy and just be the CEO
Posted on 9/29/25 at 11:25 am to Madking
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We’re closer than not right now with Kelly. He just needs to hire a real OC, give the hire autonomy and just be the CEO
By that time Baker will have moved on and we will need to hire a competent DC. It’s always something with Kelly. Can’t put together a complete team.
Posted on 9/29/25 at 11:27 am to Madking
quote:I think that's all illusory. I kind of think it's actually going to be really hard for ANY coach to navigate this system consistently, but it's hard to imagine it being Kelly.
We’re closer than not right now with Kelly.
Posted on 9/29/25 at 11:29 am to Big Scrub TX
Saban left the game due to his age. If Saban was 55, he'd still be in the game regardless of NIL. He was still hauling in top 2 classes when he left.
Posted on 9/29/25 at 11:29 am to Big Scrub TX
Ffs did we have the best portal class or not? I'm so tired of people talking from both sides of their mouth.
Posted on 9/29/25 at 11:32 am to Big Scrub TX
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We're all aware of the conventional gripes about Kelly. But this is actually a unique point in time: the rise of NIL and all that. And Kelly might be uniquely poorly suited for the new era.
Kelly has navigated NIL well. He brought in a Heisman QB and a great defense this year.
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We all know Saban saw the writing on the wall and left.
List of last 5 champions
Ohio State - Ryan Day
Michigan - Jim Harbaugh
Georgia - Kirby Smart
Alabama - Nick Saban
List of last 5 Runner Ups
Notre Dame - Marcus Freeman
Washington - Kalen DeBoer
TCU - Sonny Dykes
Alabama - Nick Saban
Ohio State - Ryan Day
None of these guys are doing any of the goofy shite you just mentioned.
Most of these guys are navigating or exceling at NIL.
Posted on 9/29/25 at 11:32 am to Big Scrub TX
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I predict that successful coaches going forward will be much more like influencers than actual football coaches.
I think you have really hit on something. Charismatic coaches bring eyes to the program. More eyes to the program means more dollars to the players NOW.
Posted on 9/29/25 at 11:34 am to Big Scrub TX
quote:
We're all aware of the conventional gripes about Kelly. But this is actually a unique point in time: the rise of NIL and all that. And Kelly might be uniquely poorly suited for the new era. We all know Saban saw the writing on the wall and left. I predict that successful coaches going forward will be much more like influencers than actual football coaches. Kiffin might be a tad too old, but he definitely seems pretty fit for where we're headed. All that shite with the dunking on the sidelines and the fire extinguishers. Snarky tweeting, etc. I think 10 years ago, Kelly might have been a great fit at LSU. But now, I just don't see how a 60-something dude from the midwest with a limited sense of humor can possibly successfully navigate what the sport has become. It's less an observation about him and more about the new system all teams are swimming in.
I think your thoughts on this are antiquated. It used to be that coaches were the primary recruiters and had to manage the roster. Now teams have GMs like Austin Thomas and a staff of NIL people and recruiters doing those things. Kelly is fine for this era as long as he’s paired with a great GM (Austin Thomas is pretty good). Kelly’s problem is exactly his supposed strength which is coaching. The coaching is bad. He has whiffed so badly on so many hires here.
Posted on 9/29/25 at 11:35 am to TheDeathValley
quote:That's fair, but we'll see. Early days, everyone still trying to figure it out. Where it settles, I predict, will much more ephemeral than suggested by the stability of the names on your list.
List of last 5 champions
Ohio State - Ryan Day
Michigan - Jim Harbaugh
Georgia - Kirby Smart
Alabama - Nick Saban
List of last 5 Runner Ups
Notre Dame - Marcus Freeman
Washington - Kalen DeBoer
TCU - Sonny Dykes
Alabama - Nick Saban
Ohio State - Ryan Day
None of these guys are doing any of the goofy shite you just mentioned.
Most of these guys are navigating or exceling at NIL.
Posted on 9/29/25 at 11:35 am to Big Scrub TX
The new model for Athletic Departments is going to change significantly. The approach to pay a coach enormous amounts of money because of their success coaching but more importantly recruiting...like Saban, is going to change to paying most of the money to the buy the players and the coaches are going to get considerably less than the market today. Makes sense, since it is the team with the best players that wins most often, not the one with the coach with the best career record.
the system will have to go to a team salary cap just like the NFL and that will include coaches pay. If they don't, then obviously the rich states with richest donors will dominate football. Nobody wants that to happen, except those schools. It is simply a money race for the best players. LSU doesn't have them on the oline anyway.
the system will have to go to a team salary cap just like the NFL and that will include coaches pay. If they don't, then obviously the rich states with richest donors will dominate football. Nobody wants that to happen, except those schools. It is simply a money race for the best players. LSU doesn't have them on the oline anyway.
Posted on 9/29/25 at 11:46 am to TheDeathValley
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great defense this year.
Jury still out.
While it appears to be much improved, it has faced one offense with a pulse and didn’t exactly set the world on fire.
Posted on 9/29/25 at 12:08 pm to TheDeathValley
quote:Maybe on paper. Seems far from obvious that it's actually true.
a great defense this year.
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