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Justin Vincent, Maurice Clairett, Cecil Collins
Posted on 1/5/13 at 9:52 am
Posted on 1/5/13 at 9:52 am
Those are some of the guys that had a great game or season and then fizzled out.
Not saying Johnny Football is like Maurice or even Collins, he could very well be the best player in college history.
But lets wait until he has played more than one year before we start freaking out about having to stop "Johnny Football". He snuck up on everybody this year, next year will be different. Let's see how he handles it.
Remember w/ his running style, he is one good hit from being out for the year. Rest assure when he is in the open field, he will gets some extra chip shots.
Not saying Johnny Football is like Maurice or even Collins, he could very well be the best player in college history.
But lets wait until he has played more than one year before we start freaking out about having to stop "Johnny Football". He snuck up on everybody this year, next year will be different. Let's see how he handles it.
Remember w/ his running style, he is one good hit from being out for the year. Rest assure when he is in the open field, he will gets some extra chip shots.
Posted on 1/5/13 at 9:58 am to Hugo Stiglitz
Tim Brando already has A&M in Pasadena next year and want's to adopt Manziel.
Posted on 1/5/13 at 10:02 am to Gutter74
quote:Running backs
Justin Vincent, Maurice Clairett, Cecil Collins
quote:Quarterback
Johnny Football
quote:He already is
he could very well be the best player in college history.
quote:Probably earlier in year but by midway point there was no "sneaking" up on anyone, people knew how good he was.
He snuck up on everybody this year
quote:So you endorse dirty play
Rest assure when he is in the open field, he will gets some extra chip shots.
Posted on 1/5/13 at 10:15 am to tduecen
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He already is
It's been one year man.
Posted on 1/5/13 at 10:20 am to tduecen
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Justin Vincent, Maurice Clairett, Cecil Collins
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Running backs
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Johnny Football
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Quarterback
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he could very well be the best player in college history.
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He already is
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He snuck up on everybody this year
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Probably earlier in year but by midway point there was no "sneaking" up on anyone, people knew how good he was.
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Rest assure when he is in the open field, he will gets some extra chip shots.
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So you endorse dirty play
no don't endorse it, but dirty hits happens
can't think of Qbs, just examples I used off top of my head
he will play like he played this year, but now some defensive coordinators will have all spring and summer, as oppose to a week to design a defense to try and stop him. So the sneaking up part is greatly diminished.
Keep in mind, he really didn't get hot until about mid to late October. La Tech went toe to toe with him. Beating Bama is what got him attention and Heisman.
Also A & M got better through the year.
This is why I believe in playoffs, A& M is the hottest team, they could have won the whole thing. Kind of like Giants(NFL) last year, got hot at the right time.
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Justin Vincent, Maurice Clairett, Cecil Collins
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Running backs
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Johnny Football
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Quarterback
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he could very well be the best player in college history.
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He already is
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He snuck up on everybody this year
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Probably earlier in year but by midway point there was no "sneaking" up on anyone, people knew how good he was.
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Rest assure when he is in the open field, he will gets some extra chip shots.
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So you endorse dirty play
no don't endorse it, but dirty hits happens
can't think of Qbs, just examples I used off top of my head
he will play like he played this year, but now some defensive coordinators will have all spring and summer, as oppose to a week to design a defense to try and stop him. So the sneaking up part is greatly diminished.
Keep in mind, he really didn't get hot until about mid to late October. La Tech went toe to toe with him. Beating Bama is what got him attention and Heisman.
Also A & M got better through the year.
This is why I believe in playoffs, A& M is the hottest team, they could have won the whole thing. Kind of like Giants(NFL) last year, got hot at the right time.
This post was edited on 1/5/13 at 10:22 am
Posted on 1/5/13 at 10:27 am to Gutter74
I endorse dirty play! (to an extent)
I say morals in everything, but as long as I am not literally trying to gauge the guy's eyes out, it's game on¨¨
I say morals in everything, but as long as I am not literally trying to gauge the guy's eyes out, it's game on¨¨
Posted on 1/5/13 at 10:27 am to Gutter74
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This is why I believe in playoffs, A& M is the hottest team, they could have won the whole thing. Kind of like Giants(NFL) last year, got hot at the right time
This is the best argument AGAINST playoffs, or at least playoffs with too many teams
Posted on 1/5/13 at 10:28 am to Gutter74
i was thinking more along the lines of denard robinsons fall from grace...we can only hope
Posted on 1/5/13 at 10:29 am to Gutter74
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Those are some of the guys that had a great game or season and then fizzled out.
2 of those guys were thugs, the other had a nice 2nd half of the season, none had special freshman seasons as opposed to:
Herschel Walker, Adrian Peterson and Michael Vick who were all Heisman finalists that arguably should have won it.
This post was edited on 1/5/13 at 10:34 am
Posted on 1/5/13 at 10:30 am to Lester Earl
He wont be as effective next year IF A&M were to lose the offensive lineman expected but he will still be best QB in SEC next season.
Posted on 1/5/13 at 10:30 am to Gutter74
well,one thing LSU will never have a "system QB" like Danny Wuerffel
Posted on 1/5/13 at 10:35 am to scubafeet
I keep reminding all of the A & M folks around me about another one year phenom who petered out...Taylor Martinez. They swear Manzell is the next coming of Jesus. It will be interesting to watch next year.
Posted on 1/5/13 at 10:38 am to tduecen
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he could very well be the best player in college history.
He already is
You need to slow down there.
Posted on 1/5/13 at 10:41 am to baylee252
quote:Was never a phenom... First Manziel passed for almost as many yards as Martinez accounted for during his great freshman season (Manziel passed for 3706 yards, Martinez accounted for 3809), a higher YPA, more touchowns, and less interceptions. He also rushed for more yards, more touchdowns, and a higher YPC.
Taylor Martinez
Posted on 1/5/13 at 10:42 am to baylee252
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I keep reminding all of the A & M folks around me about another one year phenom who petered out...Taylor Martinez.
Martinez:
Pass
Att Com % Yds avg td int
116 196 59.2 1631 8.3 10 7
Rush
162 965 6.0 12
JFF
Pass
295 434 68.0 3706 8.5 26 9
Rush
201 1410 7.0 21
One of these is not like the other
Posted on 1/5/13 at 10:42 am to coldhotwings
Name an offensive player better than him?
His stats already are up there with what Cam/Tebow put up during their great years, he won a Heisman, what player is better than him?
His stats already are up there with what Cam/Tebow put up during their great years, he won a Heisman, what player is better than him?
Posted on 1/5/13 at 10:48 am to tduecen
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Name an offensive player better than him?
In CFB History?
Posted on 1/5/13 at 10:52 am to H-Town Tiger
I guess I should have stated within in context of this conversation
Posted on 1/5/13 at 10:52 am to Gutter74
Ummm....I'm not sure I'd describe Collins' career as "fizzled out"
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