re: Justice Williams to the Transfer Portal

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Again creating a standard you don’t apply universally in order to push a narrative.

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Right.

31 of the Top 50 Freshman in PPG in the country were not from Power 5 schools. I would go even deeper than that and get their hs composite rankings, but I’m not gonna spend this much time on something I already know. I’d assume most, if not all, of the 31 non power 5 players were not in the top 100 out of high school. There might even be some power 5 freshman that weren’t even in the top 100 in their class.

Please tell me what narrative I’m trying to push?

Also, what post about agendas?

Every player who has entered the portal from the team is a replacement level player. I would say that Justice hill was so bad he was below replacement level. They have some teams with talented players whose coaches has left. Hopefully McMahon can grab one or two of them this year. I truly hope he holds on to the freshman, they all are/will be quality players. In the end. I am curious if mwani wants to sick around.

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McMahon is known to be good in the player development aspect.

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Is he?

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He could be. But this is a different era of college basketball. Many guys don't stick around long enough to be "developed".

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Well....and this is just my opinion - but development can also happen during the course of one year. We saw it with Tari Eason last year.

Now, I always have maintained that is mostly on the player, however - I do believe coaching can play a signifcant role in that as well.

I was disappointed in this past year as IMHO I saw much more regression by individual players than development, with maybe a couple of exceptions.

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Justice Williams sucks at basketball. Who cares.

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Although I agree in his current state he isn't very good, a lot of this can be on the fault of the coaching staff. He is still a young player and has all the physical tools to be able to develop into a decent to quality two way guard.

With all this untapped potential, it is the fault of the coaching staff to see little development in his game and arguable regression. He should not be riding the bench to Justice Hill. I like JWill a lot and I hope where ever he goes he can improve.

Let's play devil's advocate and say that he just flat out sucks and can't play ball. If you take a glance at the stats without digging deeper you can come to this conclusion. Hopefully MM can find a better player to improve our roster. I really like Mike Williams. I think his three star rating is a bit low. He has improved A TON his senior year. Dude can be an athletic two-way combo guard with a nice shot.

We've fought this battle many times

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Once again, had a couple of returning players and no NOA from the NCAA.

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He had less returning players than LSU. Moreover, LSU wasn't the only school with an NOA hanging over them last summer. Arizona, Memphis, Kansas all had had the same thing. Now, there was continuity because neither of those three had just fired their HC immediately after getting the NOA, but I promise you, the NOA did not have nearly as big of an impact on recruiting as you continue to think it did.

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because 1 team out of 350+ managed to pull this off shouldn't make it the level of expectation.

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It isn't the expectation. That's kind of the point. The reasonable expectations for this LSU were FAR below finishing in the top of the SEC and making a deep tournament run. No one is arguing otherwise. And no one would have been upset LSU didn't make the Elite 8 this year. Hell, no one was expecting them to reach the NCAAT. An outside possibility? Sure. But not an EXPECTATION at all. Yet, McMahon failed to come close to meeting what were already low expectations. That is where the frustration comes from. It didn't have to do very much to make this season a "success". Yet he couldn't even do that. K-State and Missouri this season, Iowa St. last season are examples that a complete turnaround with very few returning players CAN be done in counter to the argument that McMahon had no chance of being successful this season.

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Many many other schools started off with better rosters and no looming sanctions and obviously didn't do as well.

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Not many. LSU was among the worst major conference teams in America this year. Arguably only Georgetown, DePaul, Notre Dame, Boston College, Florida St., Oregon St, Minnesota, Louisville, and California were worse. 3 of those teams fired their HCs. And the only reason LSU wasn't worse, overall, is because they played one of the worst non-conference schedules in the country (rated 327 of 363 on KenPom). Also, I wanted to put South Carolina in that group was well. But considering they led wire-wire to wire against LSU on LSU's home floor, it's hard to say South Carolina was worse than LSU.

Most can, and will, acknowledge it wasn't an ideal situation for a new coach to come into (and that's why expectations were the lowest they had been in 6 years). But there is quite a difference between having an inconsistent season due to that adversity and being objectively one of the worst major conference teams in all of America...which is what LSU was this year.

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because 1 team out of 350+ managed to pull this off shouldn't make it the level of expectation.

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How many million per SEC win should be our expectation?

Funny, when Wade was HC, Making the Tourney was the expectation. He was a failure, if he didn't get past the sweet sixteen.
Now you change the goal.
What would be your minimum for next season?