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re: Just to Clarify.....THIS IS GOALTENDING......
Posted on 2/12/19 at 9:29 pm to PortCityTiger24
Posted on 2/12/19 at 9:29 pm to PortCityTiger24
quote:
that ball is still on the way up. None of the qualifiers for defensive goaltending would apply to that shot.
What?
I'll say it again - nothing Kentucky did qualifies as basker interference or goaltending. Read the rules...
quote:
Basket interference occurs when a player:
1. Touches the ball or any part of the basket while the ball is on or within
the basket;
2. Touches the ball while any part of it is within the cylinder that has the
ring as its lower base;
3. Reaches through the basket from below and touches the ball before it
enters the cylinder;
4. Pulls down a movable ring so that it contacts the ball before the ring
returns to its original position, and
5. Causes the basket or backboard to vibrate when the ball is on or within
the basket or the backboard and/or is on or in the cylinder.
b. The cylinder is the imaginary geometric figure that has the ring as its base
and is formed by the upward extension of that ring.
c. The ball shall be considered to be within the basket when any part of the
ball is below the cylinder and the level of the ring.
d. A player may have a hand legally in contact with the ball, when this
contact continues after the ball enters the cylinder or when, during such
action, the player touches or grabs the basket.
Tell me which rule was violated?
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 9:30 pm to slackster
Fwiw, people are using some hybrid rules posted on reddit in this thread. I posted, verbatim, from the ncaa rulebook.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 9:31 pm to slackster
You’re serious?
quote:
5. Causes the basket or backboard to vibrate when the ball is on or within the basket or the backboard and/or is on or in the cylinder.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 9:31 pm to Red Stick Tigress
This is why sports fans can’t be taken seriously. Biased as hell. I just witnessed LSU fans whine about refs for 2 hours, then deny an offensive interference that was clearly interference, now call out Kentucky goaltending that by rule may not be goaltending. Sports fans are fricking crazy.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 9:32 pm to slackster
quote:
5. Causes the basket or backboard to vibrate when the ball is on or within the basket or the backboard and/or is on or in the cylinder.
The slap of the backboard violates this rule. The ball was in contact with the backboard when it occurred and the movement of the board is obvious from the video replay.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 9:33 pm to slackster
quote:
5. Causes the basket or backboard to vibrate when the ball is on or within
the basket or the backboard and/or is on or in the cylinder.
You can't slap the backboard while the ball is on it, any other questions?
Posted on 2/12/19 at 9:34 pm to BleedPurpleGold
quote:
You’re serious?
Yes.
quote:
Causes the basket or backboard to vibrate when the ball is on or within the basket or the backboard and/or is on or in the cylinder.
They hit the rim before the ball even hit off the glass. To argue the backboard or basket was shaking by the time the ball hit it is as petty as Kentucky fans trying to argue it was basket interference on LSU.
Both fanbase are trying to argue the letter of the law when the intent was never violated.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 9:35 pm to Hickok
quote:
You can't slap the backboard while the ball is on it, any other questions?
And when it's not on it and still on the way up?
Posted on 2/12/19 at 9:35 pm to TabledTiger
Good sticky 
Posted on 2/12/19 at 9:35 pm to slackster
quote:
5. Causes the basket or backboard to vibrate when the ball is on or within
the basket or the backboard and/or is on or in the cylinder.
ESPN final play
One kentucky player slaps the backboard and one grabs the rim as the ball comes off the backboard. By that rule it's interference.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 9:35 pm to geauxjo
quote:
The slap of the backboard violates this rule. The ball was in contact with the backboard when it occurred
, no, no it wasn't. Posted on 2/12/19 at 9:36 pm to slackster
#5 What part of causes the backboard to vibrate confuses anyone? Backboard was shaking after they slapped it. We would have still won EVEN if there was a review. TIGERS!
Posted on 2/12/19 at 9:37 pm to slackster
quote:
Both fanbase are trying to argue the letter of the law when the intent was never violated.
Just stop. This makes absolutely no sense.
Slapping the backboard during a shot is not legal. End of story.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 9:37 pm to Lester Earl
How cute...index card guy from the Cowboys - Raiders game wants to weight in on a controversial ref's decision.
Let's just bring in Bill Vinovich to say that he didn't see the UK player put his hand up through the net, touch the rim and potentially alter the bounce of the shot before the tip, so that we can complete the cycle.
Let's just bring in Bill Vinovich to say that he didn't see the UK player put his hand up through the net, touch the rim and potentially alter the bounce of the shot before the tip, so that we can complete the cycle.
This post was edited on 2/12/19 at 9:38 pm
Posted on 2/12/19 at 9:39 pm to slackster
quote:
no, no it wasn't.
I mean, it was though.
This post was edited on 2/12/19 at 9:39 pm
Posted on 2/12/19 at 9:39 pm to slackster
quote:
5. Causes the basket or backboard to vibrate when the ball is on or within the basket or the backboard and/or is on or in the cylinder
I believe it was this one Sherlock.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 9:39 pm to TabledTiger
Section 17. Basket Interference and Goaltending
Art. 1. It is a violation to commit basket interference or goaltending.
Art. 2. Basket interference
a. Basket interference occurs when a player:
1. Touches the ball or any part of the basket while the ball is on or within
the basket;
2-BasketballRule from JC.indd 84 8/5/2013 9:09:29 AM
Rule 9 / Violations and Penalties 85
2. Touches the ball while any part of it is within the cylinder that has the
ring as its lower base;
3. Reaches through the basket from below and touches the ball before it
enters the cylinder; or
4. Pulls down a movable ring so that it contacts the ball before the ring
returns to its original position.
5. Causes the basket or backboard to vibrate when the ball is on or within
the basket or the backboard and/or is on or in the cylinder.
b. The cylinder is the imaginary geometric figure that has the ring as its base
and is formed by the upward extension of that ring.
c. The ball shall be considered to be within the basket when any part of the ball
is below the cylinder and the level of the ring.
d. A player may have a hand legally in contact with the ball, when this contact
continues after the ball enters the cylinder or when, during such action, the
player touches or grabs the basket.
Art. 3. Goaltending.
a. Goaltending occurs when a defensive player touches the ball during a fieldgoal try and each of the following conditions is met: (Exceptions: Rule
10-4.1.i)
1. The ball is on its downward flight; and
2. The ball is above the level of the ring and has the possibility, while in
flight, of entering the basket and is not touching the cylinder.
b. It is goaltending to touch the ball outside the cylinder during a free throw,
regardless of whether the free throw is on its upward or downward flight.
c. When the ball contacts the backboard and any part of the ball is above the
rim during a field goal attempt, it is considered to be on its downward flight.
In such a case, it is goaltending when the ball is touched by a player as
long as it has a possibility of entering the basket.
https://ncaambb.arbitersports.com/Groups/104883/Library/files/BR15.pdf
Art. 1. It is a violation to commit basket interference or goaltending.
Art. 2. Basket interference
a. Basket interference occurs when a player:
1. Touches the ball or any part of the basket while the ball is on or within
the basket;
2-BasketballRule from JC.indd 84 8/5/2013 9:09:29 AM
Rule 9 / Violations and Penalties 85
2. Touches the ball while any part of it is within the cylinder that has the
ring as its lower base;
3. Reaches through the basket from below and touches the ball before it
enters the cylinder; or
4. Pulls down a movable ring so that it contacts the ball before the ring
returns to its original position.
5. Causes the basket or backboard to vibrate when the ball is on or within
the basket or the backboard and/or is on or in the cylinder.
b. The cylinder is the imaginary geometric figure that has the ring as its base
and is formed by the upward extension of that ring.
c. The ball shall be considered to be within the basket when any part of the ball
is below the cylinder and the level of the ring.
d. A player may have a hand legally in contact with the ball, when this contact
continues after the ball enters the cylinder or when, during such action, the
player touches or grabs the basket.
Art. 3. Goaltending.
a. Goaltending occurs when a defensive player touches the ball during a fieldgoal try and each of the following conditions is met: (Exceptions: Rule
10-4.1.i)
1. The ball is on its downward flight; and
2. The ball is above the level of the ring and has the possibility, while in
flight, of entering the basket and is not touching the cylinder.
b. It is goaltending to touch the ball outside the cylinder during a free throw,
regardless of whether the free throw is on its upward or downward flight.
c. When the ball contacts the backboard and any part of the ball is above the
rim during a field goal attempt, it is considered to be on its downward flight.
In such a case, it is goaltending when the ball is touched by a player as
long as it has a possibility of entering the basket.
https://ncaambb.arbitersports.com/Groups/104883/Library/files/BR15.pdf
Posted on 2/12/19 at 9:39 pm to Python
quote:
Slapping the backboard during a shot is not legal. End of story.
Link?
Posted on 2/12/19 at 9:40 pm to slackster
quote:
slackster
I'm interpreting "to vibrate when" to mean: the goal was still vibrating when the ball got to the goal.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 9:41 pm to slackster
quote:
, no, no it wasn't.
Um. Yes. Yes it was. Watch the replay. Look at the still shots. His hand was in contact with the backboard as the ball bounced high off the backboard. The video clearly shows the goal move from the contact. This isn’t even debatable.
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