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Just read through some of the e-mails released re: coaching search (sorry, long)
Posted on 12/9/15 at 9:28 am
Posted on 12/9/15 at 9:28 am
Wow-- what a Charlie Foxtrot! First, I admit my unpopular bias as generally pro-Miles, but having said that, leadership demands decisive action. I didn't agree with the decision not to retain Miles, but once that decision was made, it should have been executed 100%. The absolute worst thing you can do as a leader is vacillate on a key, controversial change.
So, where do we go from here? Without a doubt, our stellar recruiting season was killed by the actions of LSU's leadership, and Miles has been legitimately hindered from doing his job to the best of his ability. He's just going to have to live with it; he doesn't get an excuse for next season. If he fails to perform, he loses his job.
But, there is a bigger picture here. Our top leadership also has to be accountable for an environment which: 1) actively undermines the success of subordinates; and 2) fosters dissension and lack of communication among all board members (look at the board members excluded in the traffic). By their handling of this situation, F. King Alexander and Joe Alleva have married their success as leaders to the success of the coach they undermined. If there is to be change, let it be a wholesale change, and let's get our beloved Alma Mater righted from the top down. LSU releases emails re: Coaching Change
So, where do we go from here? Without a doubt, our stellar recruiting season was killed by the actions of LSU's leadership, and Miles has been legitimately hindered from doing his job to the best of his ability. He's just going to have to live with it; he doesn't get an excuse for next season. If he fails to perform, he loses his job.
But, there is a bigger picture here. Our top leadership also has to be accountable for an environment which: 1) actively undermines the success of subordinates; and 2) fosters dissension and lack of communication among all board members (look at the board members excluded in the traffic). By their handling of this situation, F. King Alexander and Joe Alleva have married their success as leaders to the success of the coach they undermined. If there is to be change, let it be a wholesale change, and let's get our beloved Alma Mater righted from the top down. LSU releases emails re: Coaching Change
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Posted on 12/9/15 at 9:29 am to purpleandgoldhaze
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First, I admit my unpopular bias as generally pro-Miles
most won't read past this.
Posted on 12/9/15 at 9:30 am to purpleandgoldhaze
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f there is to be change, let it be a wholesale change, and let's get our beloved Alma Mater righted from the top down.
Yep
Posted on 12/9/15 at 9:30 am to purpleandgoldhaze
Kind of sounds like they had no plan on how to accomplish a big time coaching change.
Posted on 12/9/15 at 9:32 am to purpleandgoldhaze
Two unanswered questions:
1) Is Miles definitely fired with another 3-loss, shitshow offense season, or does Alexander's public stance mean as long as Miles maintains the status quo--3-4 losses, minor bowl, that he's here through the end of his contract?
Face it, in 2017, he will have the excuse he is "rebuilding."
2) Just exactly how far did negotiations get with Jimbo Fisher, and where exactly were they when Alexander stepped in?
1) Is Miles definitely fired with another 3-loss, shitshow offense season, or does Alexander's public stance mean as long as Miles maintains the status quo--3-4 losses, minor bowl, that he's here through the end of his contract?
Face it, in 2017, he will have the excuse he is "rebuilding."
2) Just exactly how far did negotiations get with Jimbo Fisher, and where exactly were they when Alexander stepped in?
Posted on 12/9/15 at 9:33 am to purpleandgoldhaze
Like Shaq said, if you're gonna do it, do it with some respect to Miles.
Posted on 12/9/15 at 9:33 am to jyoung1
I'm just in total awe of the total lack of professionalism, tact, and confidentiality of the whole situation. Total amateur hour.
This should be a lesson to other schools on how NOT to do a coaching change/search process.
This should be a lesson to other schools on how NOT to do a coaching change/search process.
Posted on 12/9/15 at 9:34 am to purpleandgoldhaze
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purpleandgoldhaze
Member since Oct 2015
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New people: take notes, this is how you post. Good work.
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Without a doubt, our stellar recruiting season was killed by the actions of LSU's leadership,
Too early to say this. It was a set back for sure, but we still have plenty of time.
This post was edited on 12/9/15 at 9:36 am
Posted on 12/9/15 at 9:35 am to monsterballads
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I'm just in total awe of the total lack of professionalism, tact, and confidentiality of the whole situation. Total amateur hour.
This.
Posted on 12/9/15 at 9:36 am to purpleandgoldhaze
I get why people want Miles gone, but here is a good reason not to. And it's something I've said for years now.
I mean wtf? These clowns should have had this thought out years ago. What happens if Les left in 07? You have no plan or process on what to do when the time to replace a coach does come.
We were going to be screwed whether Les took another job, got fired or retired. The problem isn't and never was Les. It's total lack of competence from the people running LSU.
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Board member Ray Lasseigne responded that a protocol or policy for future coaching changes needs to be developed, with the biggest lesson being that "extreme confidentiality along with quick and decisive action will be key."
I mean wtf? These clowns should have had this thought out years ago. What happens if Les left in 07? You have no plan or process on what to do when the time to replace a coach does come.
We were going to be screwed whether Les took another job, got fired or retired. The problem isn't and never was Les. It's total lack of competence from the people running LSU.
This post was edited on 12/9/15 at 9:41 am
Posted on 12/9/15 at 9:38 am to timlan2057
Good questions. I think you set the bar for accountability high (i.e. no less than 10-2 given the returning veterans), but F. King Alexander's and Alleva's skins should be in the game for that same standard.
Posted on 12/9/15 at 9:40 am to timlan2057
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Just exactly how far did negotiations get with Jimbo Fisher
Anyone that believed the "negotiations" were any where close to the done deal bull shite people were peddling on here deserve to be laughed at.
Nothing came out of FSU on this. If there were serious talks, there would have been something that came out.
This post was edited on 12/9/15 at 9:41 am
Posted on 12/9/15 at 9:42 am to Billder
Recruiting was going to take a hit anyway. Had CLM been fired, chances are we would have lost a few of our better recruiters and the players they had been recruiting. So that is a wash. But the way it was handled was completely unprofessional. Alleva has now been the AD at 2 major universities & should know how to handle situations such as this. Oh..right, he totally screwed up the lacross thing at Duke.
Posted on 12/9/15 at 9:45 am to purpleandgoldhaze
I think LSU fans need to be really concerned at this administration. Forget getting rid of Les at this point...the real question is how can anyone trust them not to frick the next hire up? I'm terrified to think what will happen past Les at this point. These guys are clueless and it kinda reminds you of the era before Saban. I can see LSU in dark holes for many years.
I've been supporting let Les retire or something for years now but seeing how these guys handled the situation woke me up. I honestly don't think we can do better because I don't have any trust in this leadership.
I've been supporting let Les retire or something for years now but seeing how these guys handled the situation woke me up. I honestly don't think we can do better because I don't have any trust in this leadership.
Posted on 12/9/15 at 9:46 am to purpleandgoldhaze
Hopefully they learned a valuable lesson. If Miles under performs next year, handle it with a little more professionalism and don't let leaks happen. But I think we all know at this point that if Miles is sitting on 2-3 losses, the media will grab this up in a heartbeat and we will be back on the rumor train again. LSU should have ripped the band aid off IMO.
Posted on 12/9/15 at 9:48 am to deuce985
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I've been supporting let Les retire or something for years now but seeing how these guys handled the situation woke me up. I honestly don't think we can do better because I don't have any trust in this leadership.
We were probably better off if nothing was said at all.
Posted on 12/9/15 at 9:49 am to purpleandgoldhaze
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Wow-- what a Charlie Foxtrot! First, I admit my unpopular bias as generally pro-Miles, but having said that, leadership demands decisive action. I didn't agree with the decision not to retain Miles, but once that decision was made, it should have been executed 100%. The absolute worst thing you can do as a leader is vacillate on a key, controversial change. So, where do we go from here? Without a doubt, our stellar recruiting season was killed by the actions of LSU's leadership, and Miles has been legitimately hindered from doing his job to the best of his ability. He's just going to have to live with it; he doesn't get an excuse for next season. If he fails to perform, he loses his job. But, there is a bigger picture here. Our top leadership also has to be accountable for an environment which: 1) actively undermines the success of subordinates; and 2) fosters dissension and lack of communication among all board members (look at the board members excluded in the traffic). By their handling of this situation, F. King Alexander and Joe Alleva have married their success as leaders to the success of the coach they undermined. If there is to be change, let it be a wholesale change, and let's get our beloved Alma Mater righted from the top down. LSU releases emails re: Coaching Change
I posted this same post over the weekend. have an up vote.
Posted on 12/9/15 at 9:50 am to timlan2057
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Just exactly how far did negotiations get with Jimbo Fisher
What would make anyone think that LSU and Jimbo were at anytime in "negotiations"???
Posted on 12/9/15 at 9:50 am to purpleandgoldhaze
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Without a doubt, our stellar recruiting season was killed by the actions of LSU's leadership
Link? Even the Board members were uneducated when they thought that Franks decommitted because of this. He was gone long before this controversy.
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By their handling of this situation, F. King Alexander and Joe Alleva have married their success as leaders to the success of the coach they undermined. If there is to be change, let it be a wholesale change, and let's get our beloved Alma Mater righted from the top down.
I don't think Alleva should be tied to Miles because it was obvious that his decision was to not retain Miles.
Posted on 12/9/15 at 9:51 am to monsterballads
At this point, the damage has been done. The only way to fix it is to come out and say Miles can play out his contract. At that time, he was probably going to retire anyway. By then Saban will be gone too and hopefully you get your coach before Bama does. My guess is Fisher will be the next call for Bama.
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