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Posted on 11/28/22 at 9:43 am to Lester Earl
Yeah, I wasn't crazy about JD being able to take all the receivers across the country to train with him and ONLY him either.
Posted on 11/28/22 at 9:45 am to Lester Earl
quote:Don't tell me you thought all of the top receivers pooled together their NIL money for travel and lodging in Cali to practice with arguably the least accurate QB's on the roster all on their own. You think that was some sort of spontaneous thing? Why would JD even plan on going to Cali if his team is in Baton Rouge?
Can’t tell if you’re being serious
Posted on 11/28/22 at 9:47 am to Lester Earl
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Because he’s been in a toxic situation the last few years where he hasn’t been able to grow. I don’t think it’s by chance that he has improved overnight with some stability. That’s why I’d bet on another jump with an offseason together with everyone
Fair enough. I’d counter with go watch his spring game highlights vs the last game of the season highlights and tell me how is he going to improve? Every facet of this team improved throughout the year except the QB.
It’s easier for me to accept that he’s hit his ceiling and it’s time to switch to Howard.
Posted on 11/28/22 at 9:48 am to TaderSalad
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Every facet of this team improved throughout the year except the QB.
you cannot be serious
daniels VASTLY improved over the course of the year (UF, OM, Bama) and then regressed during the arkansas and a&m game. so he improved drastically then reverted.
Posted on 11/28/22 at 10:44 am to mmcgrath
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Don't tell me you thought all of the top receivers pooled together their NIL money for travel and lodging in Cali to practice with arguably the least accurate QB's on the roster all on their own. You think that was some sort of spontaneous thing? Why would JD even plan on going to Cali if his team is in Baton Rouge?
I don’t really care how they got to California, I’m trying to figure why you are crying about it
Posted on 11/28/22 at 10:48 am to Lester Earl
quote:I just asked if Kelly was going to send them away again and you replied they could do it in Baton Rouge. I just pointed out how that would allow other QB's to benefit.
I don’t really care how they got to California, I’m trying to figure why you are crying about it
Posted on 11/28/22 at 10:51 am to mmcgrath
I don’t care either way. I thought you were trying to make a point
Posted on 11/28/22 at 10:57 am to J2thaROC
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In fact, you’d be hard pressed to find more than maybe 3 QBs better than him that LSU has had in the last 20 years. Off the top of my head, there was Burrow (obviously) and Mettenberger (arguably).
You forgot the 2nd best LSU QB of all time
Posted on 11/28/22 at 11:02 am to Fat Bastard
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that is why he lets him throw short shite because he can
he can call intermediate to deep all day it does not matter he cannot execute it.
so only call short shite? see where that gets us. roll him out more? ok. it still will not fix the intermediate to deep passes. have you seen him throw on run? at feet and high and behind guys? he is not consistent at that either.
You're also completely ignoring our "so vanilla it hurts my eyes" running game.
Denbrock needs to get a lot more creative in running b/c 95% of the time it's a basic zone, zone-read, or RPO.
We don't use motion or shifting formations nearly enough to make the defense identify itself (and help the QB read the D). We almost never use misdirection, and I'm not sure if we used motion and misdirection combined much at all (like a WR motion-option run).
There is a reason Denbrock could only sniff lower-level coordinator positions after failing at Notre Dame.
Posted on 11/28/22 at 11:08 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Matt Flynn was better too.
You forgot the 2nd best LSU QB of all time
Posted on 11/28/22 at 11:08 am to mmcgrath
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Matt Flynn was better too.
No.
Posted on 11/28/22 at 11:09 am to Lester Earl
quote:For someone who doesn't get the point and doesn't care, you got pretty defensive.
I don’t care either way. I thought you were trying to make a point
Posted on 11/28/22 at 11:22 am to mmcgrath
Not defensive at all, I gave you my energy & now it feels like you are wasting my time. I’m Trying to understand how you go from your rather inconspicuous original comment, to whining about stealing all the WRs and NIL deals and California all of a sudden. You’re clearly upset but you can’t explain what you are trying to say at all.
Posted on 11/28/22 at 11:29 am to Housplants
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Burrow certainly was not a finished product his 1st year as a tiger, but he could always go through progressions and could anticipate when a receiver would come open. He was also running a very antiquated offensive scheme.
When Burrow stepped on campus he had what they call in real estate circles "good bones". And in 2018 he showed that 'Clutch' gene that he has. Remember Auburn on the road? Georgia at home? He really only played 1 bad game and 1 game where the team was overmatched.
The AtM game should have signaled that he was legit as a player and competitor. The Fiesta against UCF signaled Burrow does not back down, and only gets better if you try to challenge him. He could will the team to victory.
I've really not seen any of this from Daniels. We'll see what happens Saturday and in the Bowl game, but if Daniels doesn't show out I see real problems next year.
Posted on 11/28/22 at 11:38 am to SportTiger1
In 2020 Arizona State only played four games. How is this his fourth full season starting? I see that narrative thrown around a lot but in reality it was only his third full season. Still plenty of growth opportunity for him especially considering Arizona State was a dumpster fire his last 2 years there which led to herm being fired earlier this year
Posted on 11/28/22 at 11:42 am to Lester Earl
quote:I never said any of that. Stealing NIL deals? LOL.
Not defensive at all, I gave you my energy & now it feels like you are wasting my time. I’m Trying to understand how you go from your rather inconspicuous original comment, to whining about stealing all the WRs and NIL deals and California all of a sudden. You’re clearly upset but you can’t explain what you are trying to say at all.
Wherever JD practices in the offseason, I hope there are some CB's and safeties there, because THAT is what he needs to practice against.
Posted on 11/28/22 at 11:58 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Matt Flynn won a championship and played in the NFL. Threw for 480 yards in a single game. Much better than Daniels.
No.
Posted on 11/28/22 at 12:04 pm to mmcgrath
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Matt Flynn won a championship and played in the NFL. Threw for 480 yards in a single game. Much better than Daniels.
JD in 2022 has better rating, yardage (so far), completion rate, ypa, and INT rate
The only stat Flynn is better is in TD rate
JD has also run for +724 yards (so far) and is +7 in rushing TDs
Posted on 11/28/22 at 12:40 pm to Lester Earl
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I think with another offseason, he could show a 30-40% improvement over what we saw this year. Which was really really good.
Don't have a lot to go off of other than my gut, and I hope you're right. I would expect Kelly to feel the same as you. But I just don't see him possessing the field vision or decisiveness. It just seems like the game moves too fast for him and my gut has me skeptical that he will meaningfully improve next year. He's also not all that accurate either.
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