re: Jordan Mickey = Tyrus Thomas

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I think he looks somewhat like Chris Bosh of the Heat and could develop a similar skill set.

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Mickeys greatest strength is his defense, rim protection ability and defensive rebounding.

All which are Bosh's weaknesses.

Bosh is 6-foot-10, Mickey is 6-foot-7

So how are they alike?

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Brady killed one of the more talented teams in LSU history.

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HUH?????

I was at the game with the team and knew we were in trouble at the shoot around early that morning. Our guys were thinking no way these boys can beat us, Wisconsin was a horrible match up for us. It was very frustrating, we were flat and over confident sometimes the coaching just doesn't work. We were very good that year and had a bad day. Brady did coach us to that point that day on probation we came out of now where. So give credit where credit is due. That was a really good team, not sure it is the most talented team we have ever had, Dale had a couple of teams with more talent. Brady also happened in 06 at the final four against a UCLA team with with four pros on the floor. Also a bad day for us and Brady. Also the weekend before against duke and texas was the highlight of my LSU bb fan life.

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That was a really good team, not sure it is the most talented team we have ever had

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I didn't say it was the most talented team we've ever had (see Shaq, Roberts, CJ, Mo, Vernel & Co. if you want that). I just said Brady killed them. Brady was great at taking less talented teams and getting the most out of them. He was really bad at getting really talented teams to reach their potential. His adjustments were "play tougher D." That's not an adjustment. College basketball is difficult. One team survives the tourney, but he let Wisconsin dictate that game the same way he let UCLA dictate the FF game. No adjustments in either.

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I don't think it's crazy to think Mickey > Thomas. He didn't get that impressive till late in RS Fr year. I think Mickey is better than TTime was at lsu

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do you remember the game against Uconn that TT had?

IMO all 3 have/had very similar games if not styles and Stromile and Tyrus real similar. Stromile was a known commodity coming in however and Tyrus developed as a redshirt.

And yeah that Brady team with Stromile and Jabari Smith were averaging like 99 points a game through about the first 15 games and then Brady just couldn't handle the success and throttled em back when they got deep into the SEC. They had a very gaudy record that year.

Then when they got into the game against Wisconsin in the NCAA tourney, Wisconsin was a bunch of farm boys that played very disciplined, didn't turn it over, slowed it down, LSU scored like 15 points in the first half, shot only like 10 times and never recovered. It was such a waste of a really good basketball team!

I remember when Brady was first hired (out of Samford was it?). I remember reading his quotes in the Advocate when he was introduced and he gave the obligatory nod to Pistol Pete and about how much he revered his offensive game and then in the next sentence talked about how he was a defensive coach and believed in half court basketball and I knew then LSU was in for a stretch of boring, unimaginative basketball. Turned my stomach really.

Then LSU hired someone with even less personality than John Brady...incredible!

But, back to the topic, Mickey may wind up having a better career at LSU than either of the other 2, he seems to have a great attitude and is havng a very good freshman year. Tyrus averaged 12 points, 9 rebounds and 3 blocks in 26 minutes his redshirt freshman year...also incredible!

Stromile's talent was somewhat wasted in the NBA. At one point in his career, he actually lead the league in most efficient minutes played. When Hubie Brown got back into coaching at Memphis I think, he actually played Stromile at center, I remember watching him have to cover Yao Ming one game. It was ridiculous looking.

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do you remember the game against Uconn that TT had?

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I was at the game and heard Clark Kellogg tell CTjr TT was the best player he had seen in the country. Uconn had 3 lottery picks on that team and we took it them. He was a beast that day, Brady was trying to hide him as much as possible hoping he would stay one more year. TT was one competitive tough mean bb player at LSU, just goes to show you what cash does to someone. Mickey is very good and seems to have the same fire TT had which is unteachable. Mickey should stay one more year, TT was a red shirt freshman and that one year in age alone is huge. We as college bb fans today have missed some very special teams here at LSU in the Brady era cause of the NBA. It is scarey to think about how good his teams could have been had he gotten 4 years out of some of those players...think about that. I despise the NBA for ruining the college game and the kids.

Basically TT had THE natural talent and athleticism and Mickey has all the will and attitude, work ethic TT never had. But Mickey came from a different background which had a lot to do with it also. TT natural ability was off the charts if he would of worked for it probably would of been great. Then again some are just great college players and some can transition and grow to do better things. Mickey has shown that so far, TT showed it with athleticism only. I remember the experts saying he would be drafted on ability alone....... That says a lot! They are different talents though with some small similarities, I do get what people are saying though not going to be a dick about it

Mickey is much more of a polished player than Thomas was. He might even be more of a polished player now than Thomas was with some NBA years under his belt. He also has an exceptionally better offensive game than Thomas. Not a good comparison at all.

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Mickey is much more of a polished player than Thomas was. He might even be more of a polished player now than Thomas was with some NBA years under his belt. He also has an exceptionally better offensive game than Thomas. Not a good comparison at all.

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That could be true, but in a stronger SEC conference, Tyrus averaged more points per minute, was a much better offensive rebounder, had a higher FG%, and also had better assist and turnover rates.

Granted, Mickey still has a lot of SEC games to play-but that doesnt necessarily translate to better stats since he's got a lot of scrub nonconference games under his belt already (through 7 SEC games his conference-only #s are worse than in his non-conference games).

I do not have any statistics on this, but I probably watched all of TT's games, and he did take jump shots. And he had a pretty good form, Mickey doesnt seem much more impressive in that regard. TT was not a great ball handler or anything, but he had a very quick first step that allowed him to get past people from the perimeter area to the rim.