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re: Joe brady is doing amazing but he's not the main reason we're great now on offense
Posted on 9/23/19 at 11:19 pm to Tiger Voodoo
Posted on 9/23/19 at 11:19 pm to Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 9/23/19 at 11:21 pm to PensaTigers
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PensaTigers
Do you even know Joe Brady's job titles with the program?
Posted on 9/23/19 at 11:23 pm to PensaTigers
I get your point. Lots of other contributing factors, but biggest change still has to be Brady. Everything else was here last year and you saw the product last year.
Posted on 9/23/19 at 11:23 pm to PensaTigers
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Didn't vandy stack the box? I'm seeing much more time in the pocket this year it's not like the line isn't blocking anyone thanks to the new scheme.
The line is better, not arguing otherwise, but they're not the main reason for the success this year.
Posted on 9/23/19 at 11:25 pm to PensaTigers
Don't take this the wrong way, I love this team but...
If our line was so Stout?? why was Burrow on his arse so much vs Vandy last Saturday, Hell we even had the commentators saying take him out before he's hurt.
Biggest improvement to me has been a health, experienced and stout Receiving core, they don't drop shite.
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he biggest fix is the offensive line. They were an abomination vs good fronts last year and average, usually, vs regular teams.
Now they're pass protection is night and day,
If our line was so Stout?? why was Burrow on his arse so much vs Vandy last Saturday, Hell we even had the commentators saying take him out before he's hurt.
Biggest improvement to me has been a health, experienced and stout Receiving core, they don't drop shite.
Posted on 9/23/19 at 11:26 pm to BigBrod81
Yup, passing game coordinator, which is why I thought he was more x and os while mickey should be handling the catching drills and other things spoken of in the article. I was just very interested in the meat of the article and wasn't as focused on the name.
Edit: Not that I'd want that, Joe obviously had the better ideas.
Edit: Not that I'd want that, Joe obviously had the better ideas.
This post was edited on 9/23/19 at 11:49 pm
Posted on 9/23/19 at 11:28 pm to PensaTigers
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Second biggest is the drops, again, are night and day difference. This credit goes to both coach o and the receivers coach who's name escapes me rn, but they implemented the 10000 catch requirement and several new and very unique ways to practice. These guys are getting completely open as well, and playing to the potential we knew they had.
Posted on 9/23/19 at 11:29 pm to PensaTigers
I never want to take away from the players
I felt like the talent was always there
It just needed the right direction. Brady brought the direction that unleashed our potential. E is a great guy but he didn't know what he was doing. He's been amazingly selfless. People say "he loves LSU" about O all the time, but E really loves this university in a selfless way.
But Brady is putting these players in a position to succeeed they weren't in before.
I felt like the talent was always there
It just needed the right direction. Brady brought the direction that unleashed our potential. E is a great guy but he didn't know what he was doing. He's been amazingly selfless. People say "he loves LSU" about O all the time, but E really loves this university in a selfless way.
But Brady is putting these players in a position to succeeed they weren't in before.
Posted on 9/23/19 at 11:31 pm to PensaTigers
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why I thought
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interested in the meat
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wasn't as focused
Your first problem is you thought wrong. Secondly, get your mind off of meat & lastly, focus harder.
This post was edited on 9/23/19 at 11:37 pm
Posted on 9/23/19 at 11:32 pm to UnoMe
ESPN won't show the damn stats for sacks and hurries. Does anyone know how many it was? I didn't think it was many at all.
My only gripe I've ever had for Joe was he is brave in the pocket, just a bit too brave. I think that contributed some, I made a comment during the game that his pocket awareness is better as he's realizing his defenders can be close without worrying as long as his lineman is positioned well. But I need to see the stats before I make that call so you might be right.
My only gripe I've ever had for Joe was he is brave in the pocket, just a bit too brave. I think that contributed some, I made a comment during the game that his pocket awareness is better as he's realizing his defenders can be close without worrying as long as his lineman is positioned well. But I need to see the stats before I make that call so you might be right.
Posted on 9/23/19 at 11:35 pm to TIGER FAN 72
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I get your point. Lots of other contributing factors, but biggest change still has to be Brady. Everything else was here last year and you saw the product last year.
Fair enough bud, that's why I'm posted this, to see if the ideas stand up to what others know and it's been a good discussion, I'm less sold on my opinion but still leaning more that way.
But thanks for not having an a childish melt when you disagree with others. I knew I needed a title to elicit some emotion to get the ball rolling so they did their job, got the smarter more mature folks in here to talk.
Posted on 9/23/19 at 11:36 pm to PensaTigers
I think our receivers are much more open this year to date. The must run better routes and the scheme is probably a big help.
That said, they catch so, so much better.
And Joe's passes are darn near perfect.
I expect this to change a bit with the pressure supplied by Florida and Auburn's lines. We'll know after those two games how much progress we've really made.
That said, they catch so, so much better.
And Joe's passes are darn near perfect.
I expect this to change a bit with the pressure supplied by Florida and Auburn's lines. We'll know after those two games how much progress we've really made.
Posted on 9/23/19 at 11:40 pm to PensaTigers
I think most credit goes to Coach O at this point. He had a vision of what he wanted his offense to look like and Canada wasn’t it. He made a change and got a 10 win season out of what he had when it was supposed to be a 6 to 7 win year.
This post was edited on 9/23/19 at 11:41 pm
Posted on 9/23/19 at 11:42 pm to BigBrod81
Had a laugh at that one lol
But I have severe adhd, a symptom is hyperfocusing. I was doing that at the time on the changes to the practice and training the article spoke of.
But I have severe adhd, a symptom is hyperfocusing. I was doing that at the time on the changes to the practice and training the article spoke of.
Posted on 9/23/19 at 11:43 pm to PensaTigers
Posted on 9/23/19 at 11:45 pm to Rize
Well yeah of course, he's doing amazing, but that mentality leads to crediting our old AD for the hire lol.
But yes, coach o wanted the spread offense and got the best he could to implement it. He's great at admitting and fixing problems but that's a thread for another day.
But yes, coach o wanted the spread offense and got the best he could to implement it. He's great at admitting and fixing problems but that's a thread for another day.
Posted on 9/23/19 at 11:45 pm to PensaTigers
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In hindsight that really is funny lol but to edit in response to your edit, I thought mickey Joseph was who implemented those things. I'm aware that Joe did when I said that I still believe the other factors slightly outweigh him.
All good man just pointing out the error.
But overall I don’t disagree with your sentiment (I’ve taken heat for saying Brady shouldn’t be given some crazy Aranda like raise until we see him develop a QB).
Burrow was poised for this. He needed to time to work with the receivers but also just for the team to accept him (JM was a leader and losing him likely left some ground to make up with a lot of the team). Seeing the way he responded to the brutal hit in the bowl game likely was the final piece of him winning every player on the team over. It’s his team, and the offseason solidified that.
If anything the biggest difference is just selling out 100% shotgun, which we already did a lot of last year, and complete tempo and letting Burrow take the game over on his own, which is when he had the most success last year as well.
E is a proven coach and coordinator, and yeah there are some new concepts that Brady helped develop but the basic foundation was there. Look at the game winner to Dillon last year against Auburn and compare it to the game winner against Texas.
This isn’t some complete renovation that this young guy that has never been a coordinator pulled off in a few months. This is more like the wrinkles that Crowton added in to Jimbo’s system in 07. It looked great and different with a 5th year senior running it but it wasn’t a complete renovation.
We saw how that went in 08. Not saying the same will happen if Brady is given full control next year, and yes he obviously deserves a raise, as does E imo.
But I do think it’s important to wait before paying him a kings ransom when he is clearly benefiting from a fricking stone cold Meyer trained assassin and a really solid foundation from E until he proves “his system” on his own in 2020.
This post was edited on 9/23/19 at 11:54 pm
Posted on 9/23/19 at 11:55 pm to Tiger Voodoo
Yeah I didn't want to expand too much on Joe being here a full year and what that meant as the post was already long as hell, but that went a long arse way for us. He had to learn a new offense with a new team and receivers and staff in a short time, he looked his best late season so that factor showed.
As to the raise, I agree. If he can formulate a powerful offense for two more years, or if just the second year is this good, I say then he's earned the pay. But we might have struck gold and we might need to gamble on that lest we lose him in those two years so Idk how I feel on that one. I'd say there's a better answer that's more complicated then big raise at the end of the year or not.
As to the raise, I agree. If he can formulate a powerful offense for two more years, or if just the second year is this good, I say then he's earned the pay. But we might have struck gold and we might need to gamble on that lest we lose him in those two years so Idk how I feel on that one. I'd say there's a better answer that's more complicated then big raise at the end of the year or not.
Posted on 9/24/19 at 12:04 am to Rize
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He made a change and got a 10 win season out of what he had when it was supposed to be a 6 to 7 win year.
Lolwut?
Posted on 9/24/19 at 12:05 am to Rize
If this offense was his vision than Canada and Ensminger were even worse hires than we thought they were
This offense is awesome but we're far from the o my people running it.
This offense is awesome but we're far from the o my people running it.
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