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Joe brady is doing amazing but he's not the main reason we're great now on offense
Posted on 9/23/19 at 11:02 pm
Posted on 9/23/19 at 11:02 pm
Lots of well deserved love for brady. The hype was surely real. But I think the other factors combine outweigh brady. Here's the things I feel led to the vast improvement.
The biggest fix is the offensive line. They were an abomination vs good fronts last year and average, usually, vs regular teams.
Now they're pass protection is night and day, holes are opening up in runs much more often, and there's not been a bad blown assignment by the blindside.
This credit goes to our line coach, who is showing what he can do given time and an uninjured line.
Second biggest is the drops, again, are night and day difference. This credit goes to both coach o and the receivers coach who's name escapes me rn, but they implemented the 10000 catch requirement and several new and very unique ways to practice. These guys are getting completely open as well, and playing to the potential we knew they had. Joe threw many passes out of bounds last year after long pocket time.
*Late edit: Misread an article that I thought was about mickey Joseph but was Joe so scratch this one, Joe almost outweighs the rest imo now but still give the edge to the other combining factors.
Another is Joe having an entire year to mesh with the team, learn the system, and get better as a group.
The run game seems slightly improved, and that helps but it's down the list.
Finally, E deserves his respect too. He put in Peyton Manning level preperation and work in a job he reportedly wasn't interested in before. We all heard coach O brag about the mattress in the office and late late nights. He was mature and selfless and transitioned to this new duo roll with brady so damn well.
Anyways, it's a lot but it's a different perspective on what we've read 100 times so hopefully someone doesn't mind the long read.
The biggest fix is the offensive line. They were an abomination vs good fronts last year and average, usually, vs regular teams.
Now they're pass protection is night and day, holes are opening up in runs much more often, and there's not been a bad blown assignment by the blindside.
This credit goes to our line coach, who is showing what he can do given time and an uninjured line.
Second biggest is the drops, again, are night and day difference. This credit goes to both coach o and the receivers coach who's name escapes me rn, but they implemented the 10000 catch requirement and several new and very unique ways to practice. These guys are getting completely open as well, and playing to the potential we knew they had. Joe threw many passes out of bounds last year after long pocket time.
*Late edit: Misread an article that I thought was about mickey Joseph but was Joe so scratch this one, Joe almost outweighs the rest imo now but still give the edge to the other combining factors.
Another is Joe having an entire year to mesh with the team, learn the system, and get better as a group.
The run game seems slightly improved, and that helps but it's down the list.
Finally, E deserves his respect too. He put in Peyton Manning level preperation and work in a job he reportedly wasn't interested in before. We all heard coach O brag about the mattress in the office and late late nights. He was mature and selfless and transitioned to this new duo roll with brady so damn well.
Anyways, it's a lot but it's a different perspective on what we've read 100 times so hopefully someone doesn't mind the long read.
This post was edited on 9/24/19 at 12:11 am
Posted on 9/23/19 at 11:04 pm to PensaTigers
Naah it's mostly Brady and Joe.
This post was edited on 9/23/19 at 11:05 pm
Posted on 9/23/19 at 11:04 pm to burke985
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it's mostly Brady and Joe.
Posted on 9/23/19 at 11:04 pm to PensaTigers
Lol, all that shite just to be wrong.
Posted on 9/23/19 at 11:06 pm to ATLTiger
Feel free to discuss like an adult then, this isn't the secrant.
Joe was already good as hell, he wasn't the issue last year.
Joe was already good as hell, he wasn't the issue last year.
Posted on 9/23/19 at 11:07 pm to PensaTigers
You could not possibly be more wrong. I'm not even going to waste my time explaining it to you.
Posted on 9/23/19 at 11:08 pm to jgriffith
Ah, well go back to the playground then kiddo.
Posted on 9/23/19 at 11:08 pm to PensaTigers
The line and Burrow’s progression are factor’s, but if you put them in last year’s scheme, the effect is much smaller. Brady is the yeast making this thing rise.
Posted on 9/23/19 at 11:10 pm to misey94
Several drives were killed by bad drops and no open guys. Blocking was abismal and is superb this year in comparrison, I shouldn't have to explain how huge that is for an offense of ANY kind, but it's a position group people know the least about.
Posted on 9/23/19 at 11:10 pm to PensaTigers
Joe's accuracy was average for a while last year. He turned it on post Bama, but he's been otherworldly this year.
The offensive line has been better, but they still give up alot of pressure. Joe's pocket presence is much improved too. Brady makes playing QB easy with his routes, and our WRs are arguably the best 3 in the country.
Honestly, the offensive line is probably the least improved part of the offense this far. For example, Vandy's first two sacks of the year were against us.
The offensive line has been better, but they still give up alot of pressure. Joe's pocket presence is much improved too. Brady makes playing QB easy with his routes, and our WRs are arguably the best 3 in the country.
Honestly, the offensive line is probably the least improved part of the offense this far. For example, Vandy's first two sacks of the year were against us.
Posted on 9/23/19 at 11:12 pm to PensaTigers
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Second biggest is the drops, again, are night and day difference. This credit goes to both coach o and the receivers coach who's name escapes me rn, but they implemented the 10000 catch requirement and several new and very unique ways to practice.
Are you f'ing serious. Beyond the whole basis of your argument being shite, the 10,000 catches and unique drills were ALL Brady.
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Comfort is the key word for Brady, who gave his receivers a goal this summer: catch 10,000 balls. Catch them behind a door. Catch them on the jugs machines. Catch them with nets over your head and goggles over your eyes and a camera on your head.
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Posted on 9/23/19 at 11:13 pm to slackster
It feels that way because Joe is holding it longer. The pocket is taking much longer to collapse than last year. Anyone know where our sack and hurried percentage is and what last year's was after game 4? I'm sure it's night and day, we can't use two plays to blanket judge 100s of plays of successful blocking.
Posted on 9/23/19 at 11:15 pm to PensaTigers
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Several drives were killed by bad drops and no open guys. Blocking was abismal and is superb this year in comparrison, I shouldn't have to explain how huge that is for an offense of ANY kind, but it's a position group people know the least about.
Look at how average the run blocking has been, especially for an LSU line. The line is good and the pass blocking has improved, but the scheme is helping them, as well. It’s designed to do that. Put them in last year’s drop back scheme and I would bet big $$ they would still struggle.
Posted on 9/23/19 at 11:15 pm to PensaTigers
The offensive line is the weakest part of this offense. The scheme is doing slot to cover that, but they're also improved, no doubt.
Posted on 9/23/19 at 11:15 pm to Jack Crevalle
I got the names mixed up when I read the article back when it came out, that does tilt the scale more in his favor now, I agree. I still got the combination of all the other factors a bit over Brady though.
Posted on 9/23/19 at 11:17 pm to PensaTigers
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But I think the other factors combine outweigh brady
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Second biggest is the drops, again, are night and day difference. This credit goes to both coach o and the receivers coach who's name escapes me
This post was edited on 9/23/19 at 11:18 pm
Posted on 9/23/19 at 11:17 pm to slackster
Didn't vandy stack the box? I'm seeing much more time in the pocket this year it's not like the line isn't blocking anyone thanks to the new scheme.
Posted on 9/23/19 at 11:18 pm to Tiger Voodoo
In hindsight that really is funny lol but to edit in response to your edit, I thought mickey Joseph was who implemented those things. I'm aware that Joe did when I said that I still believe the other factors slightly outweigh him.
This post was edited on 9/23/19 at 11:22 pm
Posted on 9/23/19 at 11:19 pm to slackster
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Honestly, the offensive line is probably the least improved part of the offense this far. For exa
Truth! Definitely hidden by the fact JB gets rid of the ball. Auburn, Florida and Bama will be the real test for this line
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