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re: Jimbo has a "True Rebuild" Scenario at A&M
Posted on 11/21/18 at 10:09 am to The First Cut
Posted on 11/21/18 at 10:09 am to The First Cut
Didn't Jimbo get in all new assistants on both sides of the ball?
I'm asking honestly.
I'm asking honestly.
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Posted on 11/21/18 at 10:09 am to Lakeboy7
Really not sure what you're laughing at. Sumlin ran a soft team at A&M. Jimbo is turning that around.
They've gone from 62nd to 2nd in rushing yards allowed per game. That's a huge change.
They've also improved in passing yards allowed per game, before yo try to use that excuse.
Scoring defense has gone from 82nd to 34th.
The culture is changing very obviously.
They've gone from 62nd to 2nd in rushing yards allowed per game. That's a huge change.
They've also improved in passing yards allowed per game, before yo try to use that excuse.
Scoring defense has gone from 82nd to 34th.
The culture is changing very obviously.
Posted on 11/21/18 at 10:11 am to H-Town Tiger
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We get it you don’t like Jimbo, you think he isn’t a good coach, so tell us what do you think his record should have been this year?
This is the fair question. I don’t think many would have said 7-5 though.
Jimbo is a loss to LSU away from what most would consider a disappointing start.
Posted on 11/21/18 at 10:11 am to The First Cut
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who isn't winning anymore than Sumlin did
Statement like prove his point. You are judging year 1 vs what 6 years Sumlin was there? If 3-4 years from now Fisher hasn’t done better than 8-4, then you will have a point. If you think that he had to do better than Sumlins last years every single year from day 1 that’s unreasonable
Posted on 11/21/18 at 10:11 am to Alltheway Tigers!
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And near the same results as the previous 5 years.
Defense taking a step up but offense taking a step down. All even so far.
Is Jimbo trying to be more like LSU...great defense..average at best offense?
Hint - It doesn't work like that Jimbo.
And Saban was 7-6 his first year at Bama, what's your point? Or are we only allowed to compare O to Saban?
Jimbo has A&M playing a style that can actually win once he gets his people on offense. I know it pains some of yall to admit it.
Posted on 11/21/18 at 10:15 am to SammyTiger
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Taking over a 7-5 team is definitely more of a rebuild than taking over a 9-3 team.
From 2005-2015 LSU won 78% of there games. In that same period A&M won 59% of their games. Its not hard to see where the steepest slope upward is to be found. imo
Posted on 11/21/18 at 10:17 am to Lakeboy7
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Did you read the part about 6 seniors and 2 juniors on Defense?
You think Sumlin would have these guys playing that kind of defense?
Let's take a look at the rush yards allowed per game rankings under Sumlin: 2012: 34
2013: 113
2014: 114
2015: 104
2016: 75
2017: 62
No one had a problem saying Sumlin ran a soft program while he was there. Why are we now trying to pretend he isn't since Jimbo is changing that?
Posted on 11/21/18 at 10:21 am to LNCHBOX
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Posted on 11/21/18 at 10:22 am to Lakeboy7
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Jimbo inherited 6 seniors and two juniors that have played a ton of football for AnM, thats not a culture change its good fortune.
So in Sumlin's tenure, he never had upperclassmen? Stop it
Posted on 11/21/18 at 10:26 am to LNCHBOX
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You think Sumlin would have these guys playing that kind of defense? Let's take a look at the rush yards allowed per game rankings under Sumlin:
2012: 34
2013: 113
2014: 114
2015: 104
2016: 75
2017: 62
No one had a problem saying Sumlin ran a soft program while he was there. Why are we now trying to pretend he isn't since Jimbo is changing that?
I agree they were soft. Thanks to Chavis, but it does look like a positive trend over the last 3 years. Elko is very good. We saw that last year vs ND. It's also likely the fact that A&M's big stars on D are all SRs this year which helped. Keke, Alaka, Landis and Durham are all SRs. It will be interesting to see how good that D is next year when Elko and Jimbo have to work around losing 4 of their front 7.
Posted on 11/21/18 at 10:46 am to The Pirate King
quote:He did an ok job. Jimbo is doing much better than he did.
Recruiting was the one thing sumlin did well
Sumlin had the one monster class with Kyle Allen, Speed Noil and Myles Garrett but he never sustained it.
Jimbo has staying power.
Posted on 11/21/18 at 10:48 am to The First Cut
You can be rebuilding the culture without rebuilding the roster.
Posted on 11/21/18 at 10:50 am to Lakeboy7
We gave up almost 100 more yards rushing per game last year with these players. That doesn't happen just because a few guys get another year of experience, especially in a completely new system with every position coach changed except for 1.
Posted on 11/21/18 at 11:03 am to LNCHBOX
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LNCHBOX
why do you feel so compelled to come up with excuses for Texas Am coach, but so quick to down LSU's coach?
Posted on 11/21/18 at 11:07 am to The First Cut
Just a reminder that LSU hasn't beaten Jimbo Fisher on the field yet.
Here's a thought
How about we beat Jimbo Fisher's team,
and THEN we talk incessantly about how bad he is to feel better about not hiring him.
Here's a thought
How about we beat Jimbo Fisher's team,
and THEN we talk incessantly about how bad he is to feel better about not hiring him.
Posted on 11/21/18 at 11:09 am to boxcar willie
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why do you feel so compelled to come up with excuses for Texas Am coach, but so quick to down LSU's coach?
What excuses am I making? HE is in his first year. That's a fact. they are playing very differnetly than they did under their previous coach. That's a fact,
LSU is essentially in it's 3rd year of O running things, and the offense is the going in the wrong direction. What am I being quick about?
some of yall are just unwilling to hear anything other than mindless sunshine pumping.
Posted on 11/21/18 at 11:11 am to The First Cut
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The defense starts 6 seniors, 2 juniors,
doesn't that meant that the defense will be a rebuild NEXT SEASON. 6 seniors and 2 juniors is not a rebuild to the
defense this season.
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no Jimbo-recruited players.
how many should he have? It is his first season. Why do you even include this. What point are you trying to make with that? It would show it was more of a rebuild if he had true freshman (which would therefore be HIS recruits) starting.
Posted on 11/21/18 at 11:13 am to LNCHBOX
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some of yall are just unwilling to hear anything other than mindless sunshine pumping.
no just unwilling to hear mindless hypocritical bull shite.
Posted on 11/21/18 at 11:13 am to boxcar willie
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no Jimbo-recruited players.
how many should he have? It is his first season. Why do you even include this. What point are you trying to make with that? It would show it was more of a rebuild if he had true freshman (which would therefore be HIS recruits) starting.
A&M had the 17th best class last year and no one other than Sternberger can start, only three total in the two-deep.
Jimbo inherited a good roster, that's not a total rebuild.
Posted on 11/21/18 at 11:14 am to boxcar willie
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no just unwilling to hear mindless hypocritical bull shite.
Feel free to tell me where any of the "mindless hypocritical bull shite" as you put it is wrong.
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