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re: Jerry palm bracketology has lsu has an 11 seed

Posted on 2/15/21 at 12:32 am to
Posted by tigahlovah
virginia beach, va
Member since Oct 2009
3291 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 12:32 am to
I am RARELY the refs and announcers hate us kind of LSU fan.

However, as an LSU basketball fan since 1978, I am POSITIVE we have gotten screwed throughout the years in our tournament seeding. I can't recall ONE year where we got the benefit of the doubt in seeding.

There has to be bias against us by the NCAA, most likely from Dale always at their throats, and the Wade fiasco.
Posted by TheWalrus
Member since Dec 2012
40510 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 12:36 am to
The worst was an 8 seed in 2009. Won the SEC, sure it was a down year, but an 8? Had to play a juggernaut UNC team in the second round and played them closer than anyone else all tournament.

Bracket matrix has LSU in on 96 of 100 sites with an average seed of 9.75, and all the ones without LSU were last updated before the UT win.
This post was edited on 2/15/21 at 12:38 am
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
75185 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 12:38 am to
2003 vs Purdue was awful too
Posted by Elleshoe
Wade’s World
Member since Jun 2004
143616 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 7:07 am to
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Agreed. This is what I'm hoping for. The schedule sets up very nicely for us to move up.

@ Ole Miss
Auburn
@ Georgia
@ Arkansas
Vanderbilt


Gonna have a home game against Florida or Mizzou after Vandy as well
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
14893 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 8:17 am to
if we get hot and sweep that schedule some 2 seed is going to be real pissed when we are the 7
Posted by Bryant91092
Member since Dec 2009
24489 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 8:53 am to
LINK /

His update today has LSU as an 8 seed.
Posted by Tigrdynasty
19th hole
Member since Jun 2018
2734 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 9:37 am to
27 net. We're a 8 or 9. Finish 4-1 and win a conference tournament game and we'll be a solid 6. Possibly higher depending who we beat in the tournament and if we beat Arkansas at their place.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68316 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 9:40 am to
Oh god, anyone but the Gonzaga bracket as an 8/9 seed please
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
14492 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 9:42 am to
quote:

I can't recall ONE year where we got the benefit of the doubt in seeding.


I think in 2015 I was worried about even getting in the tourney cause we lost to a bad Tennessee team to end the regular season and then a bad Auburn team in our first SECT game. Some analysts did not even have us in. And we got a 9 seed. Is that the year you refer too?

Otherwise I agree, we've gotten some poor seeds along the way. 2009 after we won the SEC by 3 games and got a 9 seed is one I can remember vividly.
Posted by Elleshoe
Wade’s World
Member since Jun 2004
143616 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 9:57 am to
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2009 after we won the SEC by 3 games and got a 9 seed is one I can remember vividly.


8 seed but the point stands. I thought we had 2 seed potential 2 years ago but got the 3
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
14492 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 10:39 am to
quote:

I thought we had 2 seed potential 2 years ago but got the 3


Yeah I agree, winning the SEC outright and beating Kentucky at Rupp and Tennessee as well, I thought that earned a 2 seed, but that was definitely politics media driven WW hate.
Posted by Lsuismyfav
Kentwood, LA
Member since Mar 2007
1784 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 10:47 am to


Nobody that makes the decisions hate WW.
Posted by tigahlovah
virginia beach, va
Member since Oct 2009
3291 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 10:55 am to
This was by no means a scientific analysis of our seeding history. Just my memory of time after time when we made it, it seems we where always given a seed too low. Shaq fighting with Carlos groves in the SEC tournament cost us 2-3 seeds back in 1991 I believe.

If you found an odd year where we got the benefit of the doubt, congrats. It rarely happens for LSU. We did get the 1 seed back in 1981, so there might be 2 times we were seeded correctly or even given a break.
Posted by Dexter Fillmore
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2014
165 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 11:17 am to
Agreed. The 2015 was a good surprise at 9.

The biggest slap in the face was the 2009 team getting a 9 seed after winning the SEC comfortably. The SEC was down that year but that team was solid. We played UNC arguably better than anyone in that tournament, had a 2nd half lead, but couldn’t hold on. I always thought a win there or a better seed and that team could have made a run. Marcus Thornton was playing as good as any guard in the country that year too.
Posted by ECOTIGER
westbank for life
Member since Dec 2007
2838 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 11:42 am to
Maybe because they aren't very good?
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28339 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 1:12 pm to
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27 net. We're a 8 or 9. Finish 4-1 and win a conference tournament game and we'll be a solid 6. Possibly higher depending who we beat in the tournament and if we beat Arkansas at their place.


Agreed...maybe even as high as a 5, but a lot would probably have to go right for that.

TODAY, it seems the consensus is LSU is somewhere in the range of "best" 1-2 NINE seeds to "worst" 1-2 EIGHT seeds. If they can notch another Q1 win at Ole Miss, then I think they will be firmly on the 8 line with some 7 consideration as that would be their 4th Q1 win. In comparison, Missouri is still getting a lot of love because they have 5 Q1 wins...even though their NET plummeted this week with two losses. Mizzou also has the 6th ranked SOS.

LSU has a very good SOS at the moment (13th). A win at OM would not only give them their 4th Q1 win, but also put them above .500 in games away from home.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
14492 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 1:18 pm to
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Nobody that makes the decisions hate WW.


Don't be so naïve. I would be willing to bet more than one of Pat Forde's unnamed sources in his bevy of hit pieces was on the tournament selection committee in addition to Cal of course.
Posted by tigersbb
Member since Oct 2012
10297 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 2:04 pm to
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In a play-in game. That is beyond ridiculou


Never can understand why people get so worked up over this bracketology crap, Most fans can identify about 80 % of the post season teams. The results of the next three weeks will determine seedings, not what these self proclaimed experts now say.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93685 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 2:13 pm to
quote:

The results of the next three weeks will determine seedings, not what these self proclaimed experts now say.

Yep. Any ranking or projection is just about meaningless.
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
155588 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 2:52 pm to
When Hornsby hit that shot to beat Arkansas i was like “omg we’re probably in for sure now” expecting an 11 seed, then ended up as uber safe 9
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