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re: Jennings is 9-4 as a starter. Harris is 8-4.

Posted on 12/6/15 at 10:26 am to
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
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Posted on 12/6/15 at 10:26 am to
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We are the school where QB's dreams come to die.

Comments like that are sure to appeal to any recruits reading this site.
Posted by winston318
Oklahoma City,OK
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 12/6/15 at 10:28 am to
So you're analysis is based on 1 rent a win that was cancelled
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
23203 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 10:44 am to
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Did Jenning have anything like the 3 game stretch Harris had leading into Bama?




Well, we won the 3 games leading up to Bama both years, Harris played his best football those 3 games for sure. His best 3 games happened to all come in a row, so what?

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Didn't think so. This place never fails to always want the backup QB in. Jennings was fricking terrible. End of story. Harris at his worst is better than AJ. How do yall not remember his play?


Not sure why you are trying to single my post out, as you didn't really refute anything. My point is that neither was materially better than the other in terms of results, and made no conclusion whatsoever about who I think should be playing. I do remember Jennings' play, it was poor; but I also remember Harris' play being poor as well.

And by the way, you have been really outspoken about Harris being the starter since last year, when he was the backup, so it appears you are guilty of your own accusation, and are unable to objectively judge our QB play this year. It is unfair, and that is substantiated by the results of this season. Neither lit the world on fire, and neither seemed to step up to make those big plays you need your QB to make to win big games. Last year Jennings was the whipping boy of our fanbase, but this year our season is just as disappointing and Harris is being defended by guys like you, which illustrates the division in our own fanbase and the agendas we all seem to be developing.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
23203 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 10:47 am to
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So you're analysis is based on 1 rent a win that was cancelled


It wasn't an analysis, it was one statement of fact posted to get people with nothing else to do to bicker amongst eachother.

But I still don't understand what you are getting at...if he gets the W against Mcneese, they are even...
Posted by TiggerB8t
Member since Oct 2013
691 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 10:47 am to
If you're using Harris vs Jennings or Jennings vs Harris as a barometer of success, that's like arguing whether Poland or Romania will be the first to dominate the Olympics. Both have been mediocre at best. Credit OBJ, Landry, Dural, and Dupree for making these QBs look better by making some quality catches on deep balls to support their yardage stats.

The only "pass" I give the QBs is the fact that they were both thrown in the fire as RS Frosh with little experience. Jennings would've likely progressed this year if allowed, but certainly worth giving Harris his shot due to supposed upside/ceiling - frankly, my review of the two is that Jennings appeared more comfortable in running the offense and delivering the shorter passes, plus better running skills and durability while Harris has the stronger arm, but poor accuracy and touch. Neither have delivered the goods to win SEC championships, but they are/were both young. Let's hope Harris matures - if not, sit his arse down and reopen the competition - just like Saban, Stoops, Meyer and other coaches have done.
Posted by OceanMan
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Posted on 12/6/15 at 10:50 am to
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TiggerB8t


Nice post.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/6/15 at 10:51 am to
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Well, we won the 3 games leading up to Bama both years, Harris played his best football those 3 games for sure. His best 3 games happened to all come in a row, so what?


Is this for real? Did you think I was only talking about W's?

As for the rest of your post, it was and still is clear Harris has more talent. Deal with it.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
71040 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 10:53 am to
This thread has people calling for the backup, who was the starter they wanted benched after last year.
The Rant has become a walking cliché. A self fulfilling prophecy of the LSU stereotype. GIVE US THE BACKUP!!

Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
23203 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 11:00 am to
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Is this for real? Did you think I was only talking about W's?

As for the rest of your post, it was and still is clear Harris has more talent. Deal with it.




You really aren't comfortable with this whole argument thing are you...

Let me help you focus. The argument is not about who has more talent, it is about results. Giving him a pass on having talent is like giving Les a pass on bringing in talent (or worse, giving him credit for bringing in talent), despite his record in games.

Harris still has a long way to go. Deal with it.



Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
73716 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 11:03 am to
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Started a thread that got whacked stating the same thing. As bad as Jennings was treated, why is Harris getting a pass on all of this? Jennings at least can run the ball.


What? Harris actually has rushing TDs.. Jennings didn't have any last year
Posted by LSU_Saints_Hornets
Uptown NO,LA
Member since Jan 2013
9739 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 11:03 am to
Harris threw for 250+ and 300+ yards in our losses to Arkansas and Ole Miss. In a run heavy offense like ours you can't blame the QB for those losses. It's coaching. Harris is better than Jennings and it ain't even close.
Posted by TNTigerman
James Island
Member since Sep 2012
12082 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 11:05 am to
That means neither is really good.
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
99999 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 11:07 am to
Posted by TNTigerman
James Island
Member since Sep 2012
12082 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 11:11 am to
Harris would be 9-4 too if we had finished the game vs. McNeese.

Probably.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
20147 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 11:16 am to
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And on his way to a 10* win season as a first year starting soph.


Ah yes, the "youth" excuse, yet again. Please.

And a 10 win season doesn't mean what it used to. 3-4 cupcakes, a couple more weak SEC teams. Our real season boils down to 5-6 games.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
23203 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 11:17 am to
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Harris threw for 250+ and 300+ yards in our losses to Arkansas and Ole Miss. In a run heavy offense like ours you can't blame the QB for those losses. It's coaching.


We converted 9/26 3rd downs in those games.

Both of those games we threw more passes than we had rushes. For a "run heavy offense" that is poor execution no matter how you slice it/put the blame on. Harris had the keys in both games and did not come through, particularly against Mississippi.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
89127 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 11:18 am to
Jesus, dude. Do you get tired of posting the same negative shite in every thread?
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
23203 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 11:20 am to
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There is no argument.


You're right. You are not a good poster and should have never responded to you.

Oh and Metairie sucks, btw.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
89127 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 11:25 am to
This is getting embarrassing for you.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16173 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 11:47 am to
Harris had a better o-line, better recievers, and better RB's to work with. Also we were way less predictable on offense this season over last. Yet Harris really didn't look any better than Jennings did last season. But he does have a stronger arm and runs faster. So hopefully the light comes on for Harris and he makes a big jump this off season. Regardless, whether it was the right choice or not, we need to stick with Harris. Flip floppin QB's again just doesn't seem too smart at this point. (unless Etling or McMillon just lights it up this spring, or even Jennings).

If they all look fairly equally bad, we should just stick with Harris.
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