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Jayden has to throw this ball
Posted on 10/12/22 at 2:32 pm
Posted on 10/12/22 at 2:32 pm
This is the first play broken down on Caskey's Clicker with Rohan and they do a great job discussing it.
The O-line protection is superb on this play. It does not get any better than this. Or as Rohan said, "it doesn't get any cleaner than this baby!"
So what does Jayden do? He doesn't trust his abilities, bails out of a perfect pocket, and runs for no gain.
The deep safety bit on the crossing route and Kayshon was wide open running a deep post at the bottom of the screen.
The O-line protection is superb on this play. It does not get any better than this. Or as Rohan said, "it doesn't get any cleaner than this baby!"
So what does Jayden do? He doesn't trust his abilities, bails out of a perfect pocket, and runs for no gain.
The deep safety bit on the crossing route and Kayshon was wide open running a deep post at the bottom of the screen.
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Posted on 10/12/22 at 2:35 pm to Gings5
While I don't disagree, why does it seem like almost every route LSU runs must be 15 - 20 yards downfield?
In the picture that is a long throw with a second safety back. While it looks open on a still-shot, whose to say that safety couldn't retreat back and get into the route?
In the picture that is a long throw with a second safety back. While it looks open on a still-shot, whose to say that safety couldn't retreat back and get into the route?
This post was edited on 10/12/22 at 2:37 pm
Posted on 10/12/22 at 2:36 pm to Alt26
It's really not. We ran mesh a couple times with Mason being wide open on a 5 yard crossing route. The result was a no throw and a sack.
The safety was moving towards Jayden and the crosser. Boutte was running deeper and did not make this as shallow as you may think. Safety had no shot.
The safety was moving towards Jayden and the crosser. Boutte was running deeper and did not make this as shallow as you may think. Safety had no shot.
This post was edited on 10/12/22 at 2:39 pm
Posted on 10/12/22 at 2:42 pm to Gings5
No wonder Richardson was able to throw for 453 yards when UF played Tenn.
This post was edited on 10/12/22 at 2:45 pm
Posted on 10/12/22 at 2:43 pm to Gings5
If you use the espn app you can select the sky cam feed.
It'll piss you off watching from behind the qb.
People running pretty open most of the time.
I know it's different if people aren't trying to demolish you but there are opportunities.
It'll piss you off watching from behind the qb.
People running pretty open most of the time.
I know it's different if people aren't trying to demolish you but there are opportunities.
Posted on 10/12/22 at 2:44 pm to Alt26
quote:You think the safety on the opposite hash mark already 2 yards behind Boutte will turn and catch up???
In the picture that is a long throw with a second safety back. While it looks open on a still-shot, whose to say that safety couldn't retreat back and get into the route?
It is a long throw, but the throw should have been made a second before the bottom screen shot.
Posted on 10/12/22 at 2:45 pm to Alt26
quote:
whose to say that safety couldn't retreat back and get into the route?
you have to throw the ball. take the shot. that's the play and the read.
Posted on 10/12/22 at 2:46 pm to Gings5
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The O-line protection is superb on this play. It does not get any better than this.
The problem is the passing routes took even longer to break free (and only one got spacing and if JD didn't run, the other safety likely gets there)
Like, even with that protection, the play wasn't good enough
Posted on 10/12/22 at 2:48 pm to SlowFlowPro
I disagree. It may be harder to see in the still images but it's easier if you watch the play unfold on tape.
Posted on 10/12/22 at 2:49 pm to SlowFlowPro
That’s a possible TD play and probable big play. There’s 25+ yards of open field laterally and nobody between the WR and the end zone. It doesn’t get any easier unless there’s a busted coverage.
This post was edited on 10/12/22 at 2:50 pm
Posted on 10/12/22 at 2:50 pm to Gings5
quote:
The safety was moving towards Jayden
When Jaden started running left. Before that he was going to track as high as he had to.
That route/play was not a good call against the coverage.
Also, we know JD isn't that kind of QB. It's a terrible call given JD's play style.
Posted on 10/12/22 at 2:50 pm to thejudge
quote:
It'll piss you off watching from behind the qb.
People running pretty open most of the time.
Yes, when you watch the sky cam there are plenty of chances to complete passes and not all are long bombs like this one. Can Daniels even get the ball out that far? Plus he is rolling left. This isn't a great example of his struggles. A better example would be a 5 to 10 yard in that Daniels overthrows at maximum velocity by several feet.
You will also notice Daniels isn't very accurate, especially on sideline throws. He hums the ball 2 to 3 yards outside the boundaries with no chance for the WR to make a play.
What we are seeing with Daniels is a QB that doesn't trust his arm and is worried to death of throwing interceptions. This has got Daniels locked up and scared to throw the ball.
This post was edited on 10/12/22 at 2:56 pm
Posted on 10/12/22 at 2:51 pm to Gings5
quote:
but it's easier if you watch the play unfold on tape.
I watched the youtube clip (that will be posted on here 100x). The right-deep safety loses his footing when JD is already rolling left. If JD didn't start running left, the left-deep safety had plenty of time to make the play, but since JD started running, he played down to the runner.
If we had Josh Allen or Mahomes or Herbert, we could rely on our QB making that throw (rolling left, no less). But a QB without a top-1% arm who is risk-averse? Bruh.
Posted on 10/12/22 at 2:52 pm to Madking
quote:
That’s a possible TD play and probable big play.
It's also a probable PBU.
Posted on 10/12/22 at 2:53 pm to PoppaD
quote:
What we are seeing with Daniels is a QB that doesn't trust his arm and is worried to death of throwing interceptions.
Exactly, which is why having 30 yard crossers is idiotic.
Posted on 10/12/22 at 2:54 pm to SlowFlowPro
If you make a terrible throw. If the QB can’t make that throw he shouldn’t be playing.
Posted on 10/12/22 at 2:54 pm to Madking
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If the QB can’t make that throw he shouldn’t be playing.
How many QBs do you know can thread a rope 35 yards in the air rolling across their body?
Posted on 10/12/22 at 2:55 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Only if it is a bad throw.
It's also a probable PBU.
And btw, the guy running underneath at the 35 is wide open too.
Posted on 10/12/22 at 2:55 pm to Gings5
I'm pretty sure that's the one where BK dropped his head and was screaming at JD. That being said he did make a lot of good throws especially in the first half. He threw into tighter windows and he threw to covered receivers. If he can just move up to throwing deep to one on one coverage he would see tremendous success. I did see progress though in first half of TN game and hoping it translates to success at FL saturday.
Posted on 10/12/22 at 2:58 pm to mmcgrath
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Only if it is a bad throw.
Naw
The Deep-left safety is even with JD.
Plenty of opportunity to break on a ball with the air time that throw would require.
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