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re: Javien Toviano will play Star for the rest of the season

Posted on 10/2/24 at 12:14 pm to
Posted by ABTigah
Member since Jan 2015
229 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 12:14 pm to
This is a smart move to show him his path to potentially being a starter next year.
Posted by Dotarian
Midwest
Member since Oct 2012
1689 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 12:56 pm to
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A freshman with no snaps that weighs 145 lbs would be better at this point. Burns is really bad at football.

Major Burns is this generation's version of D.J. Welter, only as a DB.

I remember Tiger fans screaming about Les leaving him in games when it was obvious he was getting torched, spun around, trucked, and generally taken out of any plays that came his way. Eventually, Welter was replaced (I can't remember if it was Beckwith or Kwon that came in for him - getting old SUCKS).

This kinda has the same feel - we keep trying to find a place for Burns on the field when he's obviously having problems playing at SEC speed. We have nothing, really, to lose by bringing in some of the youngsters and letting them take their lumps and start getting experience now.

Agree or disagree, it's just my opinion. Fire away, my Tiger brethren!!
Posted by WrexhamLSU
Member since Sep 2024
240 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 1:00 pm to
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Major Burns is this generation's version of D.J. Welter, only as a DB.



terrible comparison. Welter stopped Johnny football two years.
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
16551 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 1:04 pm to
Welter led the team in tackles, but was very often making plays after the ball carrier was well beyond the LOS. The difference is I don't remember Welter flexing after making a tackle 7-8 yards down the field.
This post was edited on 10/2/24 at 1:05 pm
Posted by caliegeaux
Member since Aug 2004
12464 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 1:14 pm to
i'd say more like years 1-3 demetrius hoofkin hookfin
Posted by BiggaGeauxrilla
North Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
3234 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 1:16 pm to
Has Toviano played at all this year? I don't recall seeing him and just looked and hasn't registered a tackle. Was he suspended?
This post was edited on 10/2/24 at 1:18 pm
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
Quantico
Member since May 2013
11788 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 1:48 pm to
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demetrius hoofkin


My earliest LSU memories are my dad yelling "GODDAMNIT HOOKFIN!"
Posted by tigersbh
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
12612 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 2:03 pm to
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A hybrid position. Think about it as playing a Safety at Outside Line Backer


Is this like Lou Tepper “drop linebacker”? Yikes!
Posted by Mandtgr47
Member since Aug 2024
7918 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 2:09 pm to
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he sees the field a lot against Ole Miss, I think we can all conclude he was serving a 6 week suspension.


do they let suspended players play special teams?
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
19108 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 2:24 pm to
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Eventually, Welter was replaced (I can't remember if it was Beckwith


Beckwith, who had a couple missed assignments, but MORE than made up for him from his general ability to make a play. Welter would plug running lanes 5 yards down the field or make a tackle on a slant route after the catch. Lots of tackles, lots of positive yardage for the offense.

He was just not athletic enough to play the position. Burns just sucks and then taunts after sucking. Different type of sucking.

Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
19108 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 2:25 pm to
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I always thought he was better as a nickel type safety than corner


Most people projected him as a safety coming out of high school I believe. We just don't have enough bodies.
Posted by LSUStar
Medellin
Member since Sep 2009
11405 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 2:34 pm to
OK
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78350 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 4:10 pm to
Hear Toviana is burning up some tape.

really likes to study his film
Posted by BayouTiger33
Member since Aug 2024
211 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 4:39 pm to
It is truly telling that nobody has been able to pass up major burns. That is probably more concerning.
This post was edited on 10/2/24 at 4:40 pm
Posted by mpwilging
Punta Gorda Isles, Florida
Member since Jan 2011
9604 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 4:39 pm to
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I am speculating that Toviano is serving a 6 game penalty. not totally suspended but in purgatory. Hope he gets back in the game after Ole Miss.
No worries, I called the Pope he's out of jail now and in good graces.
Posted by KWL85
Member since Mar 2023
3231 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 7:54 am to

I like the fact our coaching staff is at least willing to tinker to find the best fit to help this defense thrive
Would be nice if they could figure some of these things out sooner but I realize it's a process and you have to learn as you go in some instances
This team can still get in playoffs as the USC loss is not as bad as it seemed since USC keeps winning
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Agree. Wish tinkering meant that neither Sage or Burns were starting for us. Time to let the younger guys play more.
Posted by fOrEvErLsU1987
Member since May 2019
1126 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 2:54 pm to
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Major Burns is this generation's version of D.J. Welter, only as a DB


Reminds me more of ex Saints CB Fred “Toast” Thomas god those were awful times
Posted by Toadfrggy82
Kaplan, La
Member since Aug 2023
1494 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 2:56 pm to
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Javien Toviano will play Star for the rest of the season


He has the talent and potential
Posted by BillF
New York, New York
Member since Jan 2006
5792 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 4:11 pm to
My feeling is that if we see Burns and Ryan taking the majority of snaps against Ole Miss, it's time to just throw up your hands in frustration. They were both on the field in the track meet with Ole Miss last year, and the Rebels' receivers are better this year, though not especially deep.

If Burns and Ryan play a lot, LSU's defensive line will have to play out of its mind, because Kiffin will find both of those guys all night.
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