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re: Javien Toviano will play Star for the rest of the season

Posted on 10/2/24 at 10:51 am to
Posted by Cplauche1994
Member since Aug 2024
51 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 10:51 am to
Dont forget Jordan Allen and Kylin Jackson. I think you will see Jardin/ Spears in and then Allen/Jackson before you see Sage/Burns. Hopefully.
Posted by Captain Crown
Member since Jun 2011
56388 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 10:53 am to
Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
16608 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 10:58 am to
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My question would be, is he now going to be the #1 at Star? (if not, why even mention it in regard to Burns?)


If he sees the field a lot against Ole Miss, I think we can all conclude he was serving a 6 week suspension. Really strange that he was still on Special Teams, but maybe that was to keep him conditioned
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
33403 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 11:06 am to
quote:

A hybrid position. Think about it as playing a Safety at Outside Line Backer


Toviano didn’t really have Outside CB speed, but he showed flashes of ability last year put into a tough spot as a true freshman playing out of position. The good thing about him at Star is that he can probably be good enough in coverage on a 3rd or 4th WR to keep the staff from having to swap to a separate Nickel look on passing downs. If he can blitz and hold up in run support, he can be a solid upgrade in that spot.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
33981 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 11:07 am to
Sounds like toviano is going to get the next Crack at star.

He really is better closer to the line. He can tackle. I always thought he was better as a nickel type safety than corner

When he played corner he was pretty good at laying the wood
Hopefully he can hold up in coverage. They are going to go at him.

I like this move. Have to start playing some of the young talent over sage and burns.
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
33403 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 11:07 am to
quote:

If he sees the field a lot against Ole Miss, I think we can all conclude he was serving a 6 week suspension. Really strange that he was still on Special Teams, but maybe that was to keep him conditioned


I think he played some defensive snaps in the 2nd half vs USA. Probably to get him in the flow to play more after the bye.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
54208 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 11:09 am to
I like the fact our coaching staff is at least willing to tinker to find the best fit to help this defense thrive
Would be nice if they could figure some of these things out sooner but I realize it's a process and you have to learn as you go in some instances
This team can still get in playoffs as the USC loss is not as bad as it seemed since USC keeps winning
Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
16608 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 11:09 am to
I thought a 4 week “suspension” would make more sense. Maybe they used USA game to ease him back into the lineup

Interested to see how much of him we see vs Ole Miss
This post was edited on 10/2/24 at 11:10 am
Posted by ClydeFrazier
Member since Sep 2024
67 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 11:12 am to
Good. And about time.
Toviano was miscast as a CB out of desperation. He’s a good football player and should have been at safety and now star from the jump.
Posted by HC87
Coastal NC
Member since Dec 2014
5507 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 11:13 am to
quote:

Toviano didn’t really have Outside CB speed, but he showed flashes of ability last year put into a tough spot as a true freshman playing out of position. The good thing about him at Star is that he can probably be good enough in coverage on a 3rd or 4th WR to keep the staff from having to swap to a separate Nickel look on passing downs. If he can blitz and hold up in run support, he can be a solid upgrade in that spot.


Agreed, he is another 6'1" 201 lb athletic body that can lurk around the front 6, AKA a spy vs OM/Bama, and provide coverage. I thought when Baker was hired and this DEF was discussed, Toviano had the optimal size/skills for the 'Star' position. Hope he flourishes & helps the DEF.

Posted by RGT
Member since Aug 2024
1625 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 11:29 am to
I think LSU has a few players on their roster who for whatever reason
are having trouble figuring things out. Either they are hard to coach or
dont have football instincts,Taviano,perkins.Great athletes but having a
hard time with assignments.
Posted by Cd104
Member since Aug 2018
2062 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 11:30 am to
quote:

When he played corner he was pretty good at laying the wood Hopefully he can hold up in coverage. They are going to go at him.


At the very least I think he’s a significant upgrade over burns in coverage
Posted by bopper50
Sugarland Texas
Member since Mar 2009
9938 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 11:34 am to
Burns at Safety is like a bad penny always showing up.
Posted by ATLTiger
#TreyBiletnikoffs
Member since Sep 2003
46213 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 11:36 am to
I knew Kelly read tRant, so I planted the seed for this a few days ago...

quote:

Given the way BK described the Star position a few weeks back, I think Toviano is tailor-made for it.


LINK
Posted by SemiNoblePursuit
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2016
2159 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 11:38 am to
He's a fiend in the film room, I hear
Posted by AD23
Lab
Member since Jun 2012
1413 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 11:42 am to
whatever toviano is at this point at star, it can not possibly be worse than major burns.
Posted by stephendomalley
alexandria
Member since Dec 2005
6495 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 11:42 am to
I am speculating that Toviano is serving a 6 game penalty. not totally suspended but in purgatory. Hope he gets back in the game after Ole Miss.
Posted by smash williams
San Diego
Member since Apr 2009
20979 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 11:45 am to
They were matching up with slot WRs and getting absolutely smoked. They also need to address Penn in coverage, he can’t handle those crossing routes.
Posted by Cd104
Member since Aug 2018
2062 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 11:55 am to
quote:

They were matching up with slot WRs and getting absolutely smoked. They also need to address Penn in coverage, he can’t handle those crossing routes.

Atkins has to play more on passing downs he has the sideline to sideline speed to cover those crossing routes more effectively
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
71588 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 11:59 am to
quote:

A hybrid position. Think about it as playing a Safety at Outside Line Backer



I think the best way to describe it is it's kind of like a bigger nickelback thats always on the field.

Nickelbacks and STAR are basically the same 5th DB on the field position but a STAR is going to be someone a big thicker and better in run support while sometimes sacrificing some coverage ability vs. a nickelback is more about cover ability and less about run support.
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