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re: Jared Jones' pitch recognition is improving, as evidenced by strikeout Sunday

Posted on 3/5/24 at 1:01 pm to
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 3/5/24 at 1:01 pm to
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Right now, he has to balance hitting, catching, and school, on top of adjusting to playing first base with a lack of allocable time and skill specific instruction.

So just like half the other players. All that is true but meaningless. We are comparing him to other players who have the same issues. He is doing much better, but like someone posted above, the proof will be when he starts facing better pitching every week. Hopefully he can keep his strikeouts down because he is a monster when he makes contact.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 3/5/24 at 1:03 pm to
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but like someone posted above, the proof will be when he starts facing better pitching every week.


Please explain how my statement about why the adjustment to first base is a difficult one will somehow be proven or disproven by the quality of pitching he faces.
Posted by WigSplitta22
The Bottom
Member since Apr 2014
1485 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 1:10 pm to
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we will find out a lot against State



Stony Brook is better than State
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39403 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 1:12 pm to
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Please explain how my statement about why the adjustment to first base is a difficult one will somehow be proven or disproven by the quality of pitching he faces.

I thought you were talking about his hitting. I think he looks surprisingly good at first base. I’ve been impressed with his flexibility and quickness.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66652 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 1:15 pm to
You can also just look at the numbers.

He had 8 Ks this year and he had 18 through 11 games last year.

Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
28436 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 1:24 pm to
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The NCAA restricts the amount of time coaches can spend with players.

That seems bizarre to me. Like, Bizarro world.
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
14925 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 1:37 pm to
Yea why people villafy the bear puzzles me.

Kid is massive and playing well. Feel like it’s boomers that despise any strike out and would rather a singles hitter than a power guy like Jones
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
21082 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 1:41 pm to
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Yea why people villafy the bear puzzles me


It was mostly in the preseason. I'm sure some people just looked at the scrimmage stats to see how many times he struck out, so they could make a comment about it. Jones has silenced them all season so far, for the most part.

Braswell, Kling and Hurd have taken up the slack. It's just a rant narrative that one person says and then everyone else just buys into all season long.
Posted by WigSplitta22
The Bottom
Member since Apr 2014
1485 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 1:44 pm to
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Please explain how my statement about why the adjustment to first base is a difficult



Your examples are what just about every D1 athlete deals with. He's not unique in any way
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70382 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 1:49 pm to
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Your examples are what just about every D1 athlete deals with. He's not unique in any way


Tell me about how Paxton Kling spends the majority of his practice time behind the plate.

ETA: The things that I put in there were very clearly a comparison between what he's dealing with vs what a minor league player would be. I even spelled that out. There are also things I mentioned that do set him apart from what other players on the team are trying to do.

It's fine if you didn't read what I wrote, but you probably should before you comment.
This post was edited on 3/5/24 at 2:02 pm
Posted by WigSplitta22
The Bottom
Member since Apr 2014
1485 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 3:08 pm to
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The things that I put in there were very clearly a comparison between what he's dealing with vs what a minor league player would be



Jones spends time behind the plate to also help him with balls in the dirt. That's part of it. Right except nobody is talking about the minor leagues but you. The reason you gave the response was because other posters have been ragging on Jones defensive play early on not whether or not he's receiving the amount of time he needs compared to the next level. Every player has to adjust to new things with whatever sport they play,school,and life. Jones is no different.
Posted by Wichita Co Tiger
Texas
Member since Apr 2023
1849 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 5:49 pm to
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Damn nobody’s got a sense of humor today huh


No, it’s just that people are tired of your shitty, contradictory takes.
Posted by N2daWild
Member since Jul 2019
6014 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 6:21 pm to
I spoke with his father briefly and they are well aware of what needs to be done. Jared is working hard and he is making progress. I wish the best for the kid. I mentioned before, he is a difference maker if he gets it going.
Posted by PP7 for heisman
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2011
5379 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 9:14 pm to
Feel like this is the best place to put this. Jones went on Mahtook's show earlier today. He talked about calling Louisiana home for "3-4 years" which may confirm he isn't a draft eligible sophomore? I want to say there was still some confusion on whether or not he was eligible after this year since (I beleive) his birthday falls on the cutoff date.

ETA: it also could mean absolutely nothing and he's just sticking to the company line.
This post was edited on 3/5/24 at 9:18 pm
Posted by Adam4848
LA
Member since Apr 2006
18968 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 10:24 pm to
He’s draft eligible but has two years of leverage so it would take about the best deal he think he could get this year for him to pass up coming back as a junior. It would also mean he’d of hit 20-25 home runs. I think the 3-4 years quote is what everyone says while they are in college.
Posted by IM_4_LSU
Augusta, GA
Member since Mar 2014
8998 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 5:55 am to
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Here is a link to his plate appearance on Sunday where he struck out looking to end the 4th inning (maybe someone will be kind enough to post the screenshot). Jared Jones vs Payton Zabel ETA: The link doesn't take you directly to it for some reason. If you click the dropdown, it's AB #40.

Based on the pitch chart, we can tell the umpire was wrong. Strike 3 was a curveball out of the zone that was called a strike. In real time, we could see that as well. I even said out loud that even though he struck out, not swinging at that pitch showed improvement.


That umpire on Sunday missed a LOT. I'm still pissed at the strike 2 call to Travinski that was in the batter's box. It was one of the worst called strikes this year. SMH. Hopefully Jones continues the improvement in recognizing the pitch and not chasing out of the zone.
Posted by rsbd
banks of the Mississippi
Member since Jan 2007
22173 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 6:00 am to
Exactly, his warning track fly balls go 2 rows deep….
Posted by Le Tenia
Member since Feb 2015
4507 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 2:00 pm to
I can definitely see improvement. He seems to be seeing the ball better as evidence in his takes and his noticeably less check swings that were nearly every pitch.

His !B play has also gotten better as he's looking more flexible and striding out to receive the ball. With his big frame and being flexible will go along way as I'm not sold on Braswell arm strength and speed at the position thus far.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20426 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 2:19 pm to
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Feel like it’s boomers that despise any strike out and would rather a singles hitter than a power guy like Jones

WTF?

As an older guy, AKA a "boomer" I guess;
First Baseman is, to me, a traditional slugger spot. Same as Third. It's the middle infielders who you expect to be contact hitters, not the guys on the corners.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66652 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 2:31 pm to
I said this last year, Ks aren’t really a problem if you are also hitting.

Guys get out 60-70%+ of the time. A SO is better than a soft grounder with a guy on first.

Early last year Jones hit a bunch of homers, had a good BA, a decent OB% and was mashing HRs pretty much through the Alabama series

then he stopped hitting the ball and all of a sudden those Ks look a ton worse.
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