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Jared Jones' pitch recognition is improving, as evidenced by strikeout Sunday
Posted on 3/5/24 at 11:51 am
Posted on 3/5/24 at 11:51 am
Obviously everyone wants to see Bear cut down on the Ks. And the biggest impact on that would be cutting down on swinging at breaking balls outside of the strike zone. While he's not perfect there (no one really is), he's very clearly improving as the season goes on.
Here is a link to his plate appearance on Sunday where he struck out looking to end the 4th inning (maybe someone will be kind enough to post the screenshot). Jared Jones vs Payton Zabel ETA: The link doesn't take you directly to it for some reason. If you click the dropdown, it's AB #40.
Based on the pitch chart, we can tell the umpire was wrong. Strike 3 was a curveball out of the zone that was called a strike. In real time, we could see that as well. I even said out loud that even though he struck out, not swinging at that pitch showed improvement.
We're seeing growth from him, and hopefully it continues through conference games. If he continues on the track he's on, we'll be looking for a new first baseman for next season.
Here is a link to his plate appearance on Sunday where he struck out looking to end the 4th inning (maybe someone will be kind enough to post the screenshot). Jared Jones vs Payton Zabel ETA: The link doesn't take you directly to it for some reason. If you click the dropdown, it's AB #40.
Based on the pitch chart, we can tell the umpire was wrong. Strike 3 was a curveball out of the zone that was called a strike. In real time, we could see that as well. I even said out loud that even though he struck out, not swinging at that pitch showed improvement.
We're seeing growth from him, and hopefully it continues through conference games. If he continues on the track he's on, we'll be looking for a new first baseman for next season.
This post was edited on 3/5/24 at 11:52 am
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Posted on 3/5/24 at 11:52 am to ProjectP2294
That’s great and all but is his power really an 80?
Damn nobody’s got a sense of humor today huh
Damn nobody’s got a sense of humor today huh
This post was edited on 3/5/24 at 12:45 pm
Posted on 3/5/24 at 11:53 am to LSBoosie
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That’s great and all but is his power really an 80?
Ask Grant Fontenot
Posted on 3/5/24 at 12:09 pm to ProjectP2294
Great post.
It’s interesting how players get labeled and never shake that. Jones has 10 K’s this year. I don’t think that is awful for a slugger. Then there is Travinski, who gets praise from fans and announcers about his great eye, sitting at 9 K’s.
It’s interesting how players get labeled and never shake that. Jones has 10 K’s this year. I don’t think that is awful for a slugger. Then there is Travinski, who gets praise from fans and announcers about his great eye, sitting at 9 K’s.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 12:11 pm to LSBoosie
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That’s great and all but is his power really an 80?
Maybe so, maybe not. What I know for sure though is that your IQ isn't 80.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 12:18 pm to ProjectP2294
Dude has been terribly vilified
Been playing a good 1B too
Been playing a good 1B too
Posted on 3/5/24 at 12:22 pm to ProjectP2294
He can absolutely destroy shitty pitching, we will find out a lot against State and as SEC play begins
This post was edited on 3/5/24 at 1:51 pm
Posted on 3/5/24 at 12:29 pm to Lester Earl
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Been playing a good 1B too
I think he's been fine there.
Some things I think people need to remember about him playing first base:
- He's still a catcher in practice, because you need a lot of them.
- The NCAA restricts the amount of time coaches can spend with players.
- You can't practice first base alone.
If he were in the minor leagues, he'd be able to spend all of spring training working with infield specific instructors and former MLB firstbasemen moonlighting as spring training coaches. He'd also be able to work there as many hours in a given day as he wanted to.
Right now, he has to balance hitting, catching, and school, on top of adjusting to playing first base with a lack of allocable time and skill specific instruction.
HE'S DOING JUST FINE.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 12:31 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
Why are you so upset by an obvious joke from a previous thread?
Posted on 3/5/24 at 12:32 pm to 225Tyga
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He can absolutely destroy shitty pitching, we will find out a lot against State
As opposed to Texas?
Posted on 3/5/24 at 12:33 pm to 225Tyga
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we will find out a lot against State
No we won't because of their
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shitty pitching
Posted on 3/5/24 at 12:34 pm to ProjectP2294
Great post, also a good time to bring up that time ell gave up on Jones one day before the opener.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 12:34 pm to ProjectP2294
I think he’s doing fine at 1st base but he can still be critiqued. He still stretches too early which puts him in a bad position when receiving the ball. I’m sure he’s been told not to do that several times and that’s not really something you need a coach present to work on.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 12:36 pm to Adam4848
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Great post, also a good time to bring up that time ell gave up on Jones one day before the opener.
That was WinnieTiger, not Ell
Posted on 3/5/24 at 12:37 pm to ProjectP2294
The spread is Deichmann to Morgan, he's been above average defensively.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 12:39 pm to ProjectP2294
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Obviously everyone wants to see Bear cut down on the Ks.
I don’t give a shite about the k’s in the context of pitch recognition.
His 69 Ks last year were a problem because he was striking out at almost twice the rate of the rest of the team (43% of his at bats compared to 24% of the team’s at bats) was striking out much more than drawing walks, and would not let himself get plunked by bad pitches.
This year he’s striking out 24% of his at bats, compared to the team’s 21%. He’s drawing as many walks as Ks, and has already taken as many plunks this season as he did all of last season.
He definitely has shown improvement thus far, and we should have no shits to give about his K’s since he leads the team in HRs and RBIs, meaning he is very productive with his at bats.
Even in the majors, K’s are ok if you either get on base at a high rate or lead your team in HRs and RBIs. Let’s not forget the days of Sammy Sosa being a strikeout king, back before he transitioned to a white man.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 12:41 pm to Broski
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That was WinnieTiger, not Ell
The ultimate tag team
Posted on 3/5/24 at 12:42 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
Somebody seems triggered
Posted on 3/5/24 at 12:48 pm to ProjectP2294
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Based on the pitch chart, we can tell the umpire was wrong. Strike 3 was a curveball out of the zone that was called a strike.
SINKER
Peyton Zabel
vs. Jared Jones - 3/3/2024
PITCH CHART
SAVANT GAMEFEED
# Pitch Type Result Pitch Vel (MPH) Spin VBreak (In.) HBreak (In.)
1 Curveball Called Strike 79.1 2175 62 ? 11 ?
2 Curveball Ball 78.9 2177 62 ? 11 ?
3 Sinker Called Strike 92.1 1964 16 ? 14 ?
4 Curveball Called Strike 82.3 2300 61 ? 9 ?
That's from AB#40. Was there another AB you were looking at?
According to the chart, pitches 1 and 4 were a strike and maybe 1" off the zone outside.
So while he may not be swinging at offspeed, I'd at least like him to take the bat off his shoulder and get another pitch to hit?
ETA: FWIW, IMO Bear has been well above average this year, so not shitting on him with my comment above, just noting that there's always room for improvement.
This post was edited on 3/5/24 at 12:50 pm
Posted on 3/5/24 at 12:58 pm to Meauxjeaux
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That's from AB#40. Was there another AB you were looking at?
No.
As I said in the part you quoted, Strike 3 was a curveball out of the zone that was called a strike. Strike 1 was also a ball, but more borderline. Both good takes though.
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