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re: Jack Bech vs Arik Gilbert

Posted on 9/19/21 at 10:05 pm to
Posted by tilthatday
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2009
868 posts
Posted on 9/19/21 at 10:05 pm to
Nothing in life is more common than unrewarded potential. Every barroom in South Louisiana and every playground in the world is loaded with guys who “woulda, coulda, shoulda” been real players. Why they did not succeed is unimportant. Winners win and losers…
Posted by chadr07
Pineville, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
7888 posts
Posted on 9/19/21 at 10:18 pm to
Be truthful. It’s because he is white isn’t it?

Goodness some people just refuse to believe that a white guy could be pretty good at a skill position lol
Posted by StreetDiction
Austin
Member since Dec 2009
3698 posts
Posted on 9/19/21 at 10:22 pm to
Did Gilbert ever make a one handed TD grab or even break a tackle?
Posted by mcpotiger
Missouri
Member since Mar 2005
6931 posts
Posted on 9/19/21 at 10:32 pm to
Bech has heart and is tough as nails. Hustles every play . The other guy had none of this!
This post was edited on 9/19/21 at 10:33 pm
Posted by BiggaGeauxrilla
North Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
1497 posts
Posted on 9/20/21 at 1:25 am to
“Gilbert is far more talented than Bech. He is bigger, faster, and the same hands.”

This just isn’t true, he’s bigger and ran a 4.7 4.8 forty had more stars by his name out of high school, doesn’t mean he’s is or was gonna be better or has more talent…
Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
22290 posts
Posted on 9/20/21 at 2:21 am to
Bech all day over Gilbert. Bech has that fire and drive you cannot teach.

Bech is a winner.
Posted by 72Tigah
Gonzales
Member since Jan 2010
1673 posts
Posted on 9/20/21 at 6:49 am to
Bech and it's not close.
Bech is polished in every way. He is a competitor first. He may not be the physical specimen as Gilbert but that is where it ends. He has the football "it" factor that coaches dream about.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422565 posts
Posted on 9/20/21 at 6:55 am to
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You know there’s a whole bunch of truth in that statement that goes well beyond just football, and translates to the work world as well.

One of the absolute biggest intangibles we look for when hiring besides people sills, work experience, job specific skill sets, etc, is attitude. It’s actually tops on the list for prospective employees, and there’s a very good reason for that, because attitude and work ethic can make or break team cohesiveness, and it can also cause someone to be better than another with more skills in a job simply because they work hard to achieve and are rewarded in the end for their hard work with getting better, and with a positive workable attitude, and simply put, everyone can get along and work with them.

Bad work ethics, shitty or negative attitudes, and quitting will take someone with all the potential in the world and make them a terrible hire. I have to imagine it’s the exact same in football too.

This thread is kind of simplifying Gilbert's issues.

He's a 19-year old kid who has SEVERE psychological problems that aren't his fault. He's either bipolar or has a shizoid diagnosis (I forget which). He's not some lazy prima donna who is a locker room cancer just because.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32786 posts
Posted on 9/20/21 at 6:59 am to
Most people aren’t capable of or willing to address that issue with nuance, just easier for them to call the kid a quitter or “head case”.
Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
Member since Aug 2004
77321 posts
Posted on 9/20/21 at 7:03 am to
quote:

He's a 19-year old kid who has SEVERE psychological problems that aren't his fault. He's either bipolar or has a shizoid diagnosis (I forget which). He's not some lazy prima donna who is a locker room cancer just because.



All the transfers he was doing was not helping his situation...
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422565 posts
Posted on 9/20/21 at 7:08 am to
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All the transfers he was doing was not helping his situation...

What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?
Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
Member since Aug 2004
77321 posts
Posted on 9/20/21 at 7:43 am to
quote:

What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?


You serious Clark?
Posted by TigerAlum93
Member since Sep 2010
3004 posts
Posted on 9/20/21 at 9:06 am to
quote:

Bech is a nice story, but he’s going to get exposed in the SEC. Too small to block, too slow that he can be covered by safeties and LBs in the SEC.


He will do just fine in the SEC as long as we keep him matched up on LB's and safetys and not corners. Those RPO's are hard to defend and put him in open space/seams very well.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260610 posts
Posted on 9/20/21 at 9:10 am to
quote:

Bech all day over Gilbert. Bech has that fire and drive you cannot teach.


Easily.

Gilbert is uber talented, but off the field stuff will doom him.

Bech has it going on.
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9583 posts
Posted on 9/20/21 at 10:46 am to
Bech = Jacob Hester... just a football player...
Posted by lsufb1912
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2021
5965 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 7:53 am to
Can we stop with the Bech threads?
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68330 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 7:57 am to
quote:

Did Gilbert ever make a one handed TD grab or even break a tackle?


Gilbert broke 9 tackles last year according to PFF
Posted by LOWERCASE GUY
Member since Sep 2021
219 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 8:11 am to
quote:

Bech = Jacob Hester... just a football player...



AKA
White = white
Posted by Dances with Beagles
Member since Jul 2021
307 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 8:38 am to
Gimme Bech any day of the week.

The kid is a hustler and a winner. I watched him throughout HS and he hustled every play whether the ball was coming his way or not. He was the best blocking receiver I've ever seen. He fielded punts, kick-offs, and played defense when they needed a big stop.

I'm friends with some of his old coaches and they said he could literally have played any position on the field.
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64661 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 8:41 am to
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Gilbert’s level of talent is twice Bech’s.


I do not see this.
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