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re: It's pretty cool to win with no earned runs

Posted on 4/26/25 at 8:58 am to
Posted by Ryan3232
Valet driver for TD staff
Member since Dec 2008
27299 posts
Posted on 4/26/25 at 8:58 am to
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dude, anybody that follows baseball, or every played it, SHOULD know that anything that happens after there should have been 3 outs if not for errors, are all unearned. The fact that you bragged about being a score keeper makes it even worse.
cool man. Well I definitely fudged some high school books back in the day.

An example of why its dumb to me is If there were 2 outs in an inning and then someone gets on base due to error, followed by 3 back to back to back homers all being ruled as 4 unearned runs is dumb in my opinion. But hey I was wrong apparently.

Have a little grace brother
This post was edited on 4/26/25 at 9:04 am
Posted by zackcary
Member since Jun 2011
391 posts
Posted on 4/26/25 at 9:00 am to
I don't understand why people are worried about if they are earned or unearned. If a team has the the 1st 3 batters of an inning reach base by error that should have been routine outs and then goes on to score 100 runs in that inning, all runs are unearned. It's not really hard to figure out. The offensive players still get credited with the stats they deserve.
This post was edited on 4/26/25 at 9:02 am
Posted by Blutarsky
112th Congress
Member since Jan 2004
11726 posts
Posted on 4/26/25 at 9:01 am to
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but why is Jones’ HR not 1 earned run?


If the errors do not occur, Jones never gets to bat.
Posted by Mandtgr47
Member since Aug 2024
7918 posts
Posted on 4/26/25 at 9:04 am to
I think it is all because some of us are blown away at the number of people on here that don't have a clue about the scoring.

Hell, I learned this in 12u many, many, many years ago...but then I pitched so I knew the rules...lol

Yes, there were hits after the errors....but the point is, those people would never have gotten to bat had Tenn not committed the errors, and they were routine errors.
Posted by gar90
Member since Sep 2009
6472 posts
Posted on 4/26/25 at 9:04 am to
There are 2 things at work here;

First, the 2 errors let those first 2 runners on so they never should’ve been on base. Hence 2 unearned runs.

Second, error 1 would’ve been out 1, Milam strike out would’ve been out 2, and error 2 would’ve been out 3. Anything that happens after is unearned.



Edited because I forgot about Milam, I thought Stanfield was out 3 but he would’ve been out 4.
This post was edited on 4/26/25 at 11:27 am
Posted by zackcary
Member since Jun 2011
391 posts
Posted on 4/26/25 at 9:09 am to
Exactly.
Posted by Bigkat1980
Vicksburg MS
Member since Dec 2023
95 posts
Posted on 4/26/25 at 9:12 am to
Them MFers count in thae scoreboard...lol
Posted by el gato
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2005
2470 posts
Posted on 4/26/25 at 9:24 am to
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First, the 2 errors let those first 2 runners on so they never should’ve been on base. Hence 2 unearned runs.

Second, those 2 errors would’ve been outs 1 and 2. Stanfield’s fly out would’ve been out number 3 so anything that scores after Stanfield’s at bat is unearned.
Almost correct, but not quite.

Frey reached on an error to lead the at bat, Milam struck out, and was followed by Brown, who also reached on an error. Without the errors, LSU goes three up, three down and the game is over. Everything that followed after the first three batters wouldn't have happened without the errors.

It was an unearned run bonanza.
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
29527 posts
Posted on 4/26/25 at 11:02 am to
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They were scored as WP (not PB) which puts cause on pitcher which makes them ER.

One hit the mitt of Hernandez and was questionable even by Vitello. He also questioned the first error saying it was a hard play.
I disagree with one of them being a WP for damn sure.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
42030 posts
Posted on 4/26/25 at 12:01 pm to
Frey reached on a throwing error by 3b (2-1 BKB). Should be 1 out

Milam struck out swinging (0-2 KSFS). 1 out but should be 2

Brown reached on a fielding error by 3b (0-0); Frey advanced to second. 1 out but should have been two, and this error would have ended the inning, so any runs scored now are unearned.
Posted by Fratigerguy
Member since Jan 2014
4906 posts
Posted on 4/26/25 at 12:31 pm to
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but I feel decently confident in what I said above


You shouldn’t. Because you’re wrong. Keeping your sons GameChanger does not equate to knowledge in scoring things like ERA, obviously.
Posted by GeauxtigersMs36
The coast
Member since Jan 2018
12355 posts
Posted on 4/26/25 at 12:32 pm to
Did he ever actually touch home plate?
Posted by Fratigerguy
Member since Jan 2014
4906 posts
Posted on 4/26/25 at 12:33 pm to
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The first two runs got on base via E5.


Right. And there was an out between them. That’s three outs. Everything after, even though they get scored as hits, are unearned runs. They could have scored 100 runs and they would all still be unearned.
Posted by Tigergreg
Metairie
Member since Feb 2005
24423 posts
Posted on 4/26/25 at 1:14 pm to
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Did he ever actually touch home plate?


If you are talking about Jones. yes. Look at the hop on home plate.
Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
17442 posts
Posted on 4/26/25 at 1:45 pm to
Anything that happens after the 3 out ”should” have been recorded is unearned. So two errors and a K means everything is unearned.
Posted by TigerCub
Team Boxtard
Member since May 2006
22223 posts
Posted on 4/26/25 at 3:47 pm to
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Guess official scorer determined the first two errors would have ended the game, so all subsequent runs are unearned


That's how earned runs are determined. You re-create the inning without the errors/passed balls and if the runs still would have scored they're earned.

Now the fun part happens when there's a pitching change in the middle of it. Some of the runs can be earned towards the pitcher, but unearned towards the team ERA.
This post was edited on 4/26/25 at 3:52 pm
Posted by GeauxtigersMs36
The coast
Member since Jan 2018
12355 posts
Posted on 4/28/25 at 1:50 pm to
Never saw the end.
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
18817 posts
Posted on 4/28/25 at 1:51 pm to
That 3rd baseman had a rough inning.
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