re: It’s been interesting talking to OSU fans about Heimlich

Maybe you’ll let him babysit your 6 year old? He admitted guilt-nothing more needs to be said. He literally said he molested his niece-not sure why anyone is taking up for him just because he can throw a nasty curve ball.

True, but you are looking at the story from a black and white perspective. There is still a looming unknown as to his innocence. Even I'm still on the fence. I'll break it down one more time as to why I think the university and fans let him play.


-Luke passed the police lie detector test
-Maintained innocence before taking the plea and during his entire state appointed counselling/probation
-His psychologist/counselor he had to visit believes he's innocent.
-The mother who brought the charges didn't receive custody, which is RARE a mother doesn't receive custody. Though, his brother doesn't talk to him, which is one of the odd details.
-His lawyer even admits that taking the plea deal was the best option as it was a he said she said where he would NOT win. And instead it was the best option to just do counselling and have this case sealed for life (so he thought).
-The judge at the end of his adjudication basically said he will grow up to be a good man and do good things and if I remember right he basically received a standing ovation.
-The victim (present day) has stated she has no recollection or remembrance of any of the molestation.

-Studies back up that juvenile recidivism is extremely low where most studies show around 5-7% actually re offend.
-Many OSU fans are somewhat forgiving considering he was a juvenile (13-14 at the times of that acts)
-He has shown to be a good citizen to the community and to the team ever since being at OSU

I'm sure I'm missing more information, but that's the gist of it.

Ok. Then answer this. If you were the father of that child what would you think is the best action that the university should have done once they found out that abused your child for 3 years. They defended him and said he was an outstanding student and great person. That isn’t true.

Let’s just keep the school the same since I know you would be whistling a different tune. This is your community. Oregon State and public finds out what he did to your daughter. What would be your opinion then? Would you agree with them if they kicked him out of school on character issues that weren’t brought to light until after he signed with Oregon State?

That's an unfair question. A father is not a neutral objector and of course wants him punished eternally and hanged. That's what a judge and the law is for and it did so accordingly. Anything outside of that for publicly chastising is fair game though. But, as I mentioned the case has too much grey area. If it was black and white, i.e. if there was DNA evidence that he molested the girl a vast majority more would not support his playing (I say vast majority because there will always be some apologists for juvenile offenders).

Ohhh no it’s totally fair. I will explain it to you. It’s called looking at this situation from the perspective of what’s best for the victim and their families so they can heal and not have this carrying over their head for the rest of their lives.

You have to stop defending the school in order to do that. I would want heads to roll if this had been LSU. We rip on Liberal Joe Alleva for a hell of a lot less than this shite. I would want to clean house if they handled this situation like Oregon State did.

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You are also a prime example of why as AD or President of that school I would not have allowed him to continue his playing career at Oregon State.

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The AD actually really did want him gone upon the news, especially considering our AD prides himself on fighting sexual assault. Pat Casey is an extremely Catholic and religious man (went to and coached at George Fox) and thus is a very forgiving person. I can bet my bottom dollar Pat Casey lobbied hard for Luke to stay (maybe to the extent of him quitting if he didn't get to stay). And Pat as a deeply religious person coached and knew Luke for years to believe he was a good person. This is all unofficial but I based off all the interviews, rumors, vibes it is true.

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It’s been interesting talking to OSU fans about Heimlich
Maybe you’ll let him babysit your 6 year old? He admitted guilt-nothing more needs to be said. He literally said he molested his niece-not sure why anyone is taking up for him just because he can throw a nasty curve ball.

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Taking a plea is very common

Especially when there is ZERO physical evidence

It is his word vs that of a 6 year old to a jury

Look how emotional you and others are. He had no shot at all in a trial

Well good for him. He has a moral compass. Look I don’t think all Oregon people agree with what happened. Obviously, y’all have some people that take that stance. This is a left wing state and I would imagine a far left faculty and student body. I am actually shocked at the silence. I would imagine they would have been more push back than this.

What is your pulse on the issue. How many people within Oregon State and the city would want him expelled or punished versus the school did all they needed to do and handled it well. Lmfao. No honestly, look you are prolly not that bad of a guy you are just caught up in some shite. I understand it must be tough.

Theoretically, would y’all have a better chance at gathering to protest Donald Trump or LH? Lol