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re: It’s been a month and I still wake up pondering how Wehriwa(sp?) went to third

Posted on 7/21/25 at 12:03 pm to
Posted by Tig04
Member since Aug 2018
193 posts
Posted on 7/21/25 at 12:03 pm to
No disrepect, but the Hog SS did not have to go to his right to field that ball hit by Milam. It was a tailor-made double play ball hit right at him. Watch the replay.
Posted by Jaydeaux
Covington
Member since May 2005
19492 posts
Posted on 7/21/25 at 12:30 pm to
Hell the third baseman had a shot a the double play but he just nailed his foot on third and strutted off like he just won the whole thing
Posted by FireawayLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2023
1636 posts
Posted on 7/21/25 at 1:22 pm to
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Arky had that deer in the headlights look on their faces in the 9th


THIS it as if they knew something bad was about to happen so they played scared and tight.
Posted by pngtiger
Mobile
Member since May 2004
1832 posts
Posted on 7/21/25 at 1:40 pm to
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Arky had that deer in the headlights look on their faces in the 9th


So did CC at the end of game 1. You knew it was over then. They couldn’t believe they lost a game after their win streak. They got punched in the mouth and didn’t know how to respond.

Which I think is why the pitcher and coaches were so on edge in game 2. Their emotions were high, so they were arguing. I also suspect they were running their mouth a lot through the entire series, and especially game 1, which resulted in the short leash in game 2 when the coaches were ejected.
Posted by PoppaD
Texas
Member since Feb 2008
5322 posts
Posted on 7/21/25 at 1:47 pm to
R Kansas can cry about it all they want.

They seem to forget they would have had to beat the Tigers again had they not imploded and won that game. They were not going to be able to beat us again.
Posted by JakeFromStateFarm
*wears khakis
Member since Jun 2012
12714 posts
Posted on 7/21/25 at 1:52 pm to
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Arky had that deer in the headlights look on their faces in the 9th

The moment was too big for them.
Posted by SoWhat
Member since May 2013
615 posts
Posted on 7/21/25 at 1:57 pm to
I think baseman was shocked that the ball came to him.
Posted by friendlyobservation
Member since Mar 2024
3355 posts
Posted on 7/21/25 at 2:12 pm to
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
21431 posts
Posted on 7/21/25 at 3:23 pm to
"LSU put the ball in play......" As Bear put it post game, "this is just LSU baseball". Kyle Peterson put it in a similar way: " LSU is just different".
Posted by PurpleSingularity
Member since Dec 2017
2465 posts
Posted on 7/21/25 at 3:25 pm to
Dude….Jesus Christ man….move on and get ready for football season
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
44656 posts
Posted on 7/21/25 at 3:38 pm to
Stage was too big for Arky. When you know you have a history blowing it on the big stage, it can stick in your head and guarantee it happens again.

Arky is mentally weak.
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
29488 posts
Posted on 7/21/25 at 4:11 pm to
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The initial slip and then ricochet off head is more bad luck than unforced error.

It didn’t ricochet off his head. It was his shoulder.

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Definitely not a choke.
the choke was by Dave Van Horn for not having them in a “no doubles” position.
He shite that game away as much as his team did. He deserves exactly what he got after all the bush league shite he has done during his career including being regarded as a-hole by many umpires.
Posted by YeauxTigers
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Dec 2007
1070 posts
Posted on 7/21/25 at 4:19 pm to
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The runner made that play happen. Ran 3/4 speed to be visually right in front of the SS. His slide didn’t even make it to 3rd base. Was ‘heads up’ base-running.
And that runner going to third was Derek Curiel, an all-time Tiger after only one year!
This post was edited on 7/21/25 at 4:21 pm
Posted by GeauxtigersMs36
The coast
Member since Jan 2018
12326 posts
Posted on 7/21/25 at 4:22 pm to
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The pressure had him in overdrive and he thought things were happening faster than they were.. He popped up and took the lead runner, rather than the double play…. Probably assumed he was late on the double play.



This is exactly what happened. Everything sped up and he just wanted to get an out. He did not expect the LF falling.
Posted by s2
Southdowns
Member since Sep 2016
6259 posts
Posted on 7/21/25 at 4:45 pm to
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He probably assumed that since he had to go to his right that making a good feed to 2nd would have been difficult and he probably didn't want to throw it into right field.



bottom line is he made a very poor decision and should have gone for the double play.

the double play is practiced by little league kids at a very early age.
it should have been an easy out the moment the ball came off the bat.

the out at 3rd base was inconsequential and everybody knew it immediately. but no one thought Arkansas would loose the game like that.






Posted by OffTheRails
Member since Apr 2025
65 posts
Posted on 7/21/25 at 5:26 pm to
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He wasn’t the only one on that team that choked. The LF choked.

Sure, I agree that the shortstop made a mental error and if he had turned an easy double play it would have won the game, but it is an unjustified, brutal and undeserved criticism to say that the left fielder "choked". I feel a bit sorry for the young man, who gave his all for the entire season only to be derided for his final moment.

It is easy for the few of us who actually played baseball at a high level to tell which of the Rant posters have not. You clearly have never had a 3 inch diameter object smashed in a line drive over 100 miles per hour almost directly at you under the lights in a night game. Even in daylight it is the most challenging play for an outfielder to immediately judge, because of the extra carry that a baseball will get due to the aerodynamics provided by backspin. Players have only a mere fraction of a second to employ their years of experience and trained senses, the look of the swing and the angle of the ball off the bat, and to see a little white ball against a background of fans, stadium lights and black sky. Watching professional MLB players and accomplished college players make very challenging athletic feats look somewhat routine gives casual fans an unwarranted presumption that it is actually easy. Yes, the left fielder made what in baseball is scored as an "error". In the situation of the last inning with a lead, he absolutely had to first guard against a ball being hit over his head. Errors happen because the game is not easy, and I would think that almost every player on both teams made a few during the season. Heck, I even made one or two.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
61638 posts
Posted on 7/21/25 at 5:39 pm to
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Sure, I agree that the shortstop made a mental error and if he had turned an easy double play it would have won the game, but it is an unjustified, brutal and undeserved criticism to say that the left fielder "choked". I feel a bit sorry for the young man, who gave his all for the entire season only to be derided for his final moment. It is easy for the few of us who actually played baseball at a high level to tell which of the Rant posters have not. You clearly have never had a 3 inch diameter object smashed in a line drive over 100 miles per hour almost directly at you under the lights in a night game. Even in daylight it is the most challenging play for an outfielder to immediately judge, because of the extra carry that a baseball will get due to the aerodynamics provided by backspin. Players have only a mere fraction of a second to employ their years of experience and trained senses, the look of the swing and the angle of the ball off the bat, and to see a little white ball against a background of fans, stadium lights and black sky. Watching professional MLB players and accomplished college players make very challenging athletic feats look somewhat routine gives casual fans an unwarranted presumption that it is actually easy. Yes, the left fielder made what in baseball is scored as an "error". In the situation of the last inning with a lead, he absolutely had to first guard against a ball being hit over his head. Errors happen because the game is not easy, and I would think that almost every player on both teams made a few during the season. Heck, I even made one or two.


Holy crap that’s a lot of feelings.

He slipped. I think it was probably related to the pressure of the moment.

After slipping he had to decide whether he should still try and make the play. Obviously he made the wrong decision. You don’t give up the lead on a 50/50 ball in that situation. He could have played it safe and still had the lead. He panicked. I think that was pressure related.

He managed to deflect the ball a LONG way away from the play. Same issue. Even after the bad decision at some point it should have been clear to him that he wasn’t making the play and ultimately he could have tried everything to keep it in front of him. He never did that. He panicked and managed to send the ball so far away that the tying run scored. I think that was pressure related.

It doesn’t matter if you feel sorry for the guy. Hell, I feel sorry for him. That doesn’t change reality.

Don’t be such a pussy.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
19961 posts
Posted on 7/21/25 at 5:44 pm to
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get ready for football season


This gets me ready for football.

This post was edited on 7/21/25 at 5:47 pm
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
87773 posts
Posted on 7/21/25 at 5:57 pm to
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Holy crap that’s a lot of feelings.


thought the same, I guess you have those deep feelings if you’re one of the few that played baseball at a high level
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
19755 posts
Posted on 7/21/25 at 6:12 pm to
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the most challenging play for an outfielder to immediately judge, because of the extra carry that a baseball will get due to the aerodynamics provided by backspin.


The exact opposite happened to Davalan. The ball Hernandez hit dropped dramatically at a high rate because it had topspin.
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