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re: It wasn’t effing lightning in a bottle!
Posted on 1/17/20 at 9:29 am to lostinbr
Posted on 1/17/20 at 9:29 am to lostinbr
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Specifically in the DL. Defensive line depth and experience was a strength this year, but it very easily could have been a weakness if Lawrence and Fehoko had left.
Very true. Fulton and several on the oline too. Glad they didn't go the Weathersby(sp?) route and disappear.
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Posted on 1/17/20 at 9:30 am to LSU615
I guess you can look at it several ways. My expectations/hope for 2020 are basically the same as I had for 2019. 10 win regular season and compete for SEC West. Beat Bama and we in ATL.
My expectations are not a repeat of 2019 accomplishments with CFP, #1 seed, 15-0. By that rationale, the team would take a step back and go back to the 2018 season.
I think most LSU fans would agree with that for the most part which COULD be interpreted that 2019 was lightning in a bottle.
My expectations are not a repeat of 2019 accomplishments with CFP, #1 seed, 15-0. By that rationale, the team would take a step back and go back to the 2018 season.
I think most LSU fans would agree with that for the most part which COULD be interpreted that 2019 was lightning in a bottle.
Posted on 1/17/20 at 9:31 am to Powerman
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Coach O has absolutely not proven he can recruit elite coordinators
LSU just had the greatest offensive season in the history of college football. Orgeron hired Ensminger and Joe Brady. In each of his three seasons, he’s made changes to improve the team offensively. He even went out and got Burrow when any other team could have pursued him.
What part of the offensive staff and the offensive pieces weren’t hired by Orgeron?
Posted on 1/17/20 at 9:35 am to Powerman
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Who is saying this
Literally every person callin in on xm radio and some national hosts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 9:35 am to Silvermoon_WhereRU
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What part of the offensive staff and the offensive pieces weren’t hired by Orgeron?
Yes, he hired a great assistant. Ensminger is/was clearly not an elite OC. Go back and rewatch 2016 and 2018. Ensminger may become elite assuming he can take what he learned this year and continue it without Brady.
You are ignoring everything pre-Brady. Coach O hired 2 OCs before 2019 and our offense was still below average. Coach O hasn't hired any DCs yet so we will see how this one turns out. Will it be a Joe Brady-esque hire or a Canada-esque hire?
My whole point is that Coach O doesn't have some long history of proven OC or DC hires that makes you think he can do no wrong.
This post was edited on 1/17/20 at 9:37 am
Posted on 1/17/20 at 9:39 am to LSU615
They have to say it to justify voting for Ohio State, Oklahoma and Clemson next year above LSU. Ohio State would open the season in top 2 if they were 8-4, media bias out of control. I think Brennan is gonna light it up. And look at the last 3 games of 2018 , we were coming, and that was before Joe Brady. Geaux Tigers!!1
Posted on 1/17/20 at 9:39 am to lsu2006
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Hard to call it lightning in a bottle when we went from 9-4 to 10-3 to 15-0, when we havent had a losing season in 20 years and when we have been recruiting like we have. Obviously I think we take a bit of a step back next year (10-2 IMHO) but we’re not going anywhere
Posted on 1/17/20 at 9:39 am to LSU615
It is fuel for next years team. Coach O will use this to make sure they don't have the big head.
Posted on 1/17/20 at 9:42 am to bod312
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Yes, he hired a great assistant. Ensminger is/was clearly not an elite OC. Go back and rewatch 2016 and 2018. Ensminger may become elite assuming he can take what he learned this year and continue it without Brady.
You are ignoring everything pre-Brady. Coach O hired 2 OCs before 2019 and our offense was still below average. Coach O hasn't hired any DCs yet so we will see how this one turns out. Will it be a Joe Brady-esque hire or a Canada-esque hire?
My whole point is that Coach O doesn't have some long history of proven OC or DC hires that makes you think he can do no wrong.
Not saying Orgeron can do no wrong. But his hiring Ensminger was the perfect move even if at the time it made no sense. Anyone else named OC in 2018 would have been too egotistical to let a 30yr old come aboard in 2019 and change the offense after 1 year. That takes trust and the right guy. That was Ensminger and that is why Oregeron deserves credit for the hire. If you piece together a staff that isn’t cohesive then you failed, no matter how much knowledge the OC has that you hired.
You also aren’t acknowledging he hired Freeze at Ole Miss and Hugh Freeze was an elite hire which Oregeron has also made in his career.
Posted on 1/17/20 at 9:43 am to LSU615
Joe Burrow and Joe Brady put this team over the top BUT LSU has always been capable of winning it all. Coach O now putting the right people in the right places to make it happen. We shall see how Brennan and the defense perform this fall but I am easily seeing a 11 to 12 win regular season with the schedule.
This post was edited on 1/17/20 at 9:44 am
Posted on 1/17/20 at 9:45 am to LSU615
It’s there way of putting us on notice that if you don’t win 10/11 next year it was flukish.....
Posted on 1/17/20 at 9:47 am to LSU615
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It was exactly what we all thought could happen at LSU. And it did.
I’m calling 100% bullshite on that. No one expected everything that happened. Maybe we expected to win it all but never all the awards and accolades.
Posted on 1/17/20 at 9:48 am to LSU615
Some people are acting like this isn't LSU's 4th National Championship. They're acting like LSU is a school that came out of nowhere and made some noise like Boise State or something.
"Don't call it a comeback, we been here for years." It just took a few years for the program to correct course after 1-9-12. They were playing with one hand tied behind their back due to the offense but still managed to win around 10 games a season.
Coach O was able to finally unlock the programs vast potential. The genie is out of the bottle now and it's not going back in. LSU plays offense now and that was always the SEC's worst nightmare.
"Don't call it a comeback, we been here for years." It just took a few years for the program to correct course after 1-9-12. They were playing with one hand tied behind their back due to the offense but still managed to win around 10 games a season.
Coach O was able to finally unlock the programs vast potential. The genie is out of the bottle now and it's not going back in. LSU plays offense now and that was always the SEC's worst nightmare.
Posted on 1/17/20 at 9:50 am to Silvermoon_WhereRU
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Anyone else named OC in 2018 would have been too egotistical to let a 30yr old come aboard in 2019 and change the offense after 1 year. That takes trust and the right guy.
You would be implying that O knew he was going to hire Brady a year later. If Coach O hired Ensminger without 100% knowing he was going to hire Brady then it still makes the E hire poor. He also hired Canada which went poorly.
I never considered Hugh Freeze and I am not sure it is relevant since it was so long ago and at Ole Miss. Coach O has failed before at hiring an elite OC and it is possible he fails at hiring an elite DC. It is also possible he hires the greatest DC ever. His track record of OC hires causes me to have some concern over his DC hire.
Posted on 1/17/20 at 9:52 am to LSU615
So having the best single season ever was entirely in the coaches and players control. Our opponents rankings, lack of major injuries, and random ball bounces had nothing to do with it.
Chill y’all. You can respect CEO and still call the greatest season ever “lightning in a bottle”.
Chill y’all. You can respect CEO and still call the greatest season ever “lightning in a bottle”.
Posted on 1/17/20 at 9:52 am to LSU615
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It wasn’t effing lightning in a bottle!
Ehh to some extent it was. This team was an outlier in about every statistical category on the offensive side of the ball. Not just highly ranked but record setting.
That is not to say our National Title can't be defended or that we won't consistently contend for playoff spots going forward. It is just this year was an outlier.
Posted on 1/17/20 at 9:55 am to jcaz
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I am easily seeing a 11 to 12 win regular season with the schedule.
Optimistic. I hope you are right but with the schedule and who we are losing (coaches and players) I think 0 or 1 losses will be very tough.
It is possible we go 12-0 but I think it is possible we go 7-5. I think 9-3 seems pretty realistic. A number or our opponents are getting better/more experienced and we are getting younger and new coaches/schemes.
Posted on 1/17/20 at 9:57 am to LSU615
Honestly...who cares if it was. In 30 years how many people are still going to be calling this team one of, if not THE, greatest team all time. Lighting in the bottle or not, no one can take this away from us
This post was edited on 1/17/20 at 9:58 am
Posted on 1/17/20 at 9:57 am to bod312
I'll go even further- people are saying this because we were SO GOOD people are just trying to wrap their minds around what they previously thought was impossible for a team to do
Posted on 1/17/20 at 9:59 am to LSU615
Another way to think of it is we did catch "The Greatest Season of All Time" in a bottle.
I absolutely think we will be highly competitive going forward but it will be hard to duplicate "The Greatest Season of all Time"
I absolutely think we will be highly competitive going forward but it will be hard to duplicate "The Greatest Season of all Time"
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