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re: Is Tiger Stadium Overrated?

Posted on 10/7/09 at 12:44 pm to
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
73855 posts
Posted on 10/7/09 at 12:44 pm to
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Wow...you know Neyland stadium is where the Vols play right? He's wondering if Tiger Stadium compares to what happened Neyland after 01.
you are a fricking idiot. That is not at all what he asked
Posted by ALGator
Member since Jan 2007
164 posts
Posted on 10/7/09 at 12:46 pm to
Is Tiger Stadium Overrated? No.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297141 posts
Posted on 10/7/09 at 12:46 pm to
Tiger Stadium isn't what it was. But, in premiere night games it is unbeatable. Unfortunately thats just a mere fraction of games played in TS.

Tiger Stadium earned its rep decades ago. Its not the same game in, game out.....but in premiere games its the best experience in college football IMO
Posted by xiv
Parody. #AdminsRule
Member since Feb 2004
39508 posts
Posted on 10/7/09 at 12:46 pm to
Yes. Please inform all our opponents so that they may know this.
Posted by Reauxhan
Los Angeles
Member since Sep 2005
169 posts
Posted on 10/7/09 at 12:47 pm to
quote:

you are a fricking idiot. That is not at all what he asked


Here's his quote:

"just asking a legit question since I've seen the cycle after team have success (Neyland post '01)."

My point was that the quality of UT's play could have contributed to it, we're still winning and having success, and the crowds are still loud.
Posted by otowntiger
O-Town
Member since Jan 2004
16762 posts
Posted on 10/7/09 at 12:51 pm to
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Night games + Premiere Opponent + good competitive play by LSU = Death Valley = unbelievable


Fixed it for ya. I agree with what you say except that if LSU is not playing well, the crowd is quiet and may even leave at some point. So to answer the original poster's question, overall I'd say yes. T.S. is overrated. It only gets cranking when we are playing well against a high caliber opponent. All other times, its a church for all intents and purposes. The fans will bail very quickly if they are not happy or bored, i.e. they will literally leave the stadium when we either have a big lead or are in a deep hole.. . Oh, I forgot to add that regardless of the opponent, the score or level of LSU player performance if the weather is anything but perfect the fans will bail enmasse as well.
This post was edited on 10/7/09 at 12:54 pm
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109730 posts
Posted on 10/7/09 at 12:52 pm to
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Tiger Stadium earned its rep decades ago. Its not the same game in, game out.....but in premiere games its the best experience in college football IMO


How rockin' do you remember it being for that 1979 40+ point drubbing of Rice ? How bout that big '86 Miami(OH) showdown?

The fact is, for whatever reason, we play a lot more cupcake type schools at home these days. However, even when we just played one or two such games a year, the place was never really on fire for those games. It's so silly to act like it was for EVERY GAME in some great bygone era.
Posted by lsufan504
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2008
98 posts
Posted on 10/7/09 at 12:55 pm to
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Gary Lundy


For those of you too young to get this reference visit:
Thank You Gary Lundy
Posted by RANDY44
Member since Aug 2005
9572 posts
Posted on 10/7/09 at 12:55 pm to
Like others have stated, the stadium becomes much more lively if the competition is good. A little more wound up at night of course but I'll tell you, some of the loudest crowds I've seen there were UGA in '03 and 'Bama '08, two day games.
Posted by Reauxhan
Los Angeles
Member since Sep 2005
169 posts
Posted on 10/7/09 at 12:56 pm to
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How rockin' do you remember it being for that 1979 40+ point drubbing of Rice ? How bout that big '86 Miami(OH) showdown?

The fact is, for whatever reason, we play a lot more cupcake type schools at home these days. However, even when we just played one or two such games a year, the place was never really on fire for those games. It's so silly to act like it was for EVERY GAME in some great bygone era.


Nice point. I've always wondered this when I hear the more seasoned folks talk about how great it was in the past, and implying that the fans are just spoiled now.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297141 posts
Posted on 10/7/09 at 12:57 pm to
quote:


How rockin' do you remember it being for that 1979 40+ point drubbing of Rice ? How bout that big '86 Miami(OH) showdown?

The fact is, for whatever reason, we play a lot more cupcake type schools at home these days. However, even when we just played one or two such games a year, the place was never really on fire for those games. It's so silly to act like it was for EVERY GAME in some great bygone era.




No, I agree with you. LSU did have some pretty good OOC games in the past however. U$C, ND, Washington (when they were good) FSU, Ohio State.


Think the steady diet of cupcakes hasn't helped. Last, and only legit top 15 OOC LSU has played at TS this decade is VT.

Part of it could be LSU being a "premiere" program this decade. Fewer games are expected to be tight. Think the OOC contests hurt as well.

Don't dispute the cupcakes of the past, but LSU also stepped up playing premiere programs as well.


Posted by TigerDenWest
Lake Charles, La
Member since Jan 2005
637 posts
Posted on 10/7/09 at 12:59 pm to
Posted by Suntiger
STG or BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
35638 posts
Posted on 10/7/09 at 12:59 pm to
quote:

Tiger Stadium = Clark Kent

Death Valley = Superman




This is one of the better analogies I've seen.


Have to agree, that is pretty good.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
88119 posts
Posted on 10/7/09 at 1:00 pm to
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For those of you too young to get this reference visit:


makes me feel really old that someone out there might be too young to get a gary lundy reference.
Posted by CountryVolFan
Knoxville, TN
Member since Dec 2008
3058 posts
Posted on 10/7/09 at 1:01 pm to
I remember the Lundy article...

I got to BR on Friday before the game... since the week before was a L to UAB, all the Tiger fans I came into contact with were saying things like "don't beat us too bad"

Then that article gets spread around... In fact I think it was copied in bulk and passed out at Tiger Stadium on the day of the game... needless to say, UT fans didn't appreciate that.

I looked it up:

quote:

September 25, 2000 Gary Lundy Most of us would probably roll our eyes if Vanderbilt had the nerve to call its football stadium "Death Valley." We'd think Kentucky's Hal Mumme had lost his marbles if he started referring to Commonwealth Stadium as "Death Valley." So why isn't our reaction the same when we hear the term used at LSU? The moniker rings hollow. It's a joke. "Death Valley," of course, is the pretentious tag that LSU still hangs on its football stadium. The University of Tennessee will play in Baton Rouge on Saturday for the first time since a 20-0 cakewalk over the Tigers in 1992. Death Valley? They should call it Kevorkian Valley because, as often as not, the victim is LSU, and death is self-inflicted. It's hard to get too excited about the mystique of a place where Alabama-Birmingham just knocked off Nick Saban's boys in purple and gold. It's hard to get too excited about the mystique of a place where LSU is 3-8 in SEC games since 1997. Houston beat LSU at home in the '90s. So did Colorado State. Ask Alabama how hard it is to win in "Death Valley." The Tide is undefeated (14-0-1) in Baton Rouge since 1969. Tennessee receiver Eric Locke knows what it's like. He played in "Death Valley" when he was with the Tide in 1998, and there's not much awe in his voice when he talks about it. "It's a real nice environment to play in," Locke said after the Vols destroyed Louisiana-Monroe 70-3 Saturday. Ask UT defensive backs coach Larry Slade what he remembers about a trip to "Death Valley" in 1994, when he was an assistant coach with Texas A&M, and he says, "I remember all the drunk people when we got there." Though he walked through the valley of death, Slade and A&M came away a winner. UT freshman Michael Munoz has heard stories from his father about playing at LSU. Anthony Munoz was a standout at Southern Cal when the Trojans came to Baton Rouge and won 17-12 in 1979. "My Dad told me it was the loudest place he had ever played," Munoz said. "It's part of football history and tradition down there." The key word is history. That was 21 years ago. Many of the Vols weren't even born then. The myth of Death Valley has been perpetuated because of two main reasons. LSU publicists got a lot of mileage out of a 1987 College Football Association poll of the nation's Division I-A coaches, which named LSU has the most dreaded home field in the nation. Also, in 1988, the LSU Geology department registered an earthquake-sized tremor on campus from the fans rocking the stadium at the exact moment Tommy Hodson threw a touchdown pass to give the Tigers a 7-6 win over Auburn. For years, LSU included a photo of the seismograph chart in its media guide. But scientists say fans at any major football power would make the needle jump on a seismograph. "When you've been to Birmingham at night or Florida at night, they're all loud," Tennessee coach Randy Sanders said. "After a certain point, it doesn't matter how loud it is because you can't hear anyway." UT quarterback Casey Clausen has heard about Death Valley from his younger brother, a high school senior who has committed to play for the Tigers. "He told me it's a real big-time place to play," Clausen said. "He'll probably give me a hard time this week." If he wanted, Clausen could give it right back to his little brother. Truth is, LSU's "Death Valley" died decades ago. May it rest in peace.
Posted by stowns
BR
Member since Dec 2006
1999 posts
Posted on 10/7/09 at 1:02 pm to
I've been disappointed thus far this season....but I'm optimistic for this weekend
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
64612 posts
Posted on 10/7/09 at 1:02 pm to
2008, Largest Comeback in LSU History. (Not seen by many)




Posted by Geaux Tahel
Member since Feb 2006
6759 posts
Posted on 10/7/09 at 1:05 pm to
Cant believe noone has posted the video (or was it a powerpoint) of Death Valley that has all the quotes from opposing players and coaches, etc...
Posted by lsufan504
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2008
98 posts
Posted on 10/7/09 at 1:06 pm to
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might be too young


Current undergrads were between 9 and 12 years old when that occurred.
Posted by Jake85
New Orleans, LA
Member since Sep 2009
549 posts
Posted on 10/7/09 at 1:09 pm to
quote:

It has fallen off for sure in the last 5 years. I guess the "big" games are still great, but the rest of them (and you'd be surprised what some posters on this board will say isn't a big game) are not that great. In fact, the first two LSU home games this year (ULL and Vandy) had the ESPNU announcers ridiculing LSU fans for leaving the game at halftime.


Unfortunately I agree. I hate to say it, but LSU fans are, for the most part, pretty fickle. Tiger Stadium is, without a doubt, the greatest venue to watch a football game, given the right cirmcumstances (team, weather, opponent). But it can also be disappointing when the weather, the opposing team, or LSU, sucks. However, this saturday appears to be the perfect storm. Saturday night should be one of the greatest in Tiger Stadium history.
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