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re: Is there a program that ISN'T cheating and IS elite?
Posted on 3/13/19 at 5:54 pm to IS_IT_GAMEDAY
Posted on 3/13/19 at 5:54 pm to IS_IT_GAMEDAY
Kentucky. No chance Calipari has ever done anything against the rules as a coach
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Posted on 3/13/19 at 5:58 pm to IS_IT_GAMEDAY
There is a reason no name schools are called "Cinderella" when they make a run in the tournament. The ones that are supposed to be there are the Wicked Stepmothers.
To more directly answer your question I would say no there aren't any sustained elite teams that aren't "cheating." I would say there have been a few that did elite things.. George Mason.. Florida Gulf Coast. Davidson.
To more directly answer your question I would say no there aren't any sustained elite teams that aren't "cheating." I would say there have been a few that did elite things.. George Mason.. Florida Gulf Coast. Davidson.
This post was edited on 3/13/19 at 6:03 pm
Posted on 3/13/19 at 6:00 pm to tgerb8
My undergrad college didn’t cheat beyond letting all the basketball players be business majors, and we won the National Championship my freshman year. Of course, this was in the NAIA. 
Posted on 3/13/19 at 6:01 pm to IS_IT_GAMEDAY
it's not about who cheats it's about who gets caught
Posted on 3/13/19 at 6:08 pm to sunnydaze
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it's not about who cheats it's about who gets caught
That would appear to be everyone based on what has been released.
Posted on 3/13/19 at 6:17 pm to tgerb8
For all the gonzaga people look at their current recruiting class and also look at zach norvell and zach collins offer lists.
People want to believe that just because they are "small" they are clean. How does a kid from chicago (norvell) with offers from Florida state (who outbid us for balsa) and a number of other P5 schools end up in spokane? How does a 7 footer (collins) with offers from all over the country to P5 schools end up there? how does a top 10 center Drew Timme from texas with offers from Arizona (who was tossing out strong arse offers), alabama (where collin sexton got paid) Michigan state, UT, USC illinois TAMU, Baylor end up in spokane washington for free?
People want to believe that just because they are "small" they are clean. How does a kid from chicago (norvell) with offers from Florida state (who outbid us for balsa) and a number of other P5 schools end up in spokane? How does a 7 footer (collins) with offers from all over the country to P5 schools end up there? how does a top 10 center Drew Timme from texas with offers from Arizona (who was tossing out strong arse offers), alabama (where collin sexton got paid) Michigan state, UT, USC illinois TAMU, Baylor end up in spokane washington for free?
This post was edited on 3/13/19 at 6:19 pm
Posted on 3/13/19 at 6:24 pm to IS_IT_GAMEDAY
There are rules for 'winners' and
There are rules for 'participators'
Schools pick the rules they want to follow.
There are rules for 'participators'
Schools pick the rules they want to follow.
Posted on 3/13/19 at 6:45 pm to Bottom9
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think this was a joke you meant but I'll bite, isn't Zion like the biggest named implicated on the Dawkins report that dropped back last year?
Funny you don’t hear more about that now huh
Posted on 3/13/19 at 7:13 pm to IS_IT_GAMEDAY
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Is there a program that isn't cheating and is elite?
Alabama
Posted on 3/13/19 at 7:14 pm to IS_IT_GAMEDAY
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This will have no affect on the ability to land a coach
Trust those doubts. No one is clean. Those days are gone. Too prevalent. Too much money and people want to win
Posted on 3/13/19 at 7:16 pm to IS_IT_GAMEDAY
"everybody else cheats" is not a good defense
Posted on 3/13/19 at 7:17 pm to IS_IT_GAMEDAY
Come on. Does it make a difference if other programs are cheating ? The suspicion is in our back yard. We cannot use that as an excuse for anything. When the NCAA comes to campus they won’t be at all concerned about the blue bloods.
Posted on 3/13/19 at 7:22 pm to IS_IT_GAMEDAY
Hummmm...maybe Brigham Young?.. the Mormons might not be elite but their players might be the only ones not flashing money or driving fancy Dodge Chargers or being caught with a gun and marijuana in their car....
This post was edited on 3/13/19 at 7:23 pm
Posted on 3/13/19 at 7:25 pm to Tbobby
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"everybody else cheats" is not a good defense
Yes it is. It is because it's bullshite when it is common practice. It is not even cheating anymore because so many teams have done it for so long. It literally is just how it is. LSU has been paying players for years, we just sorta sucked while also doing it. Everyone pays players, you still have to have good coaches to coach the players.
AAU gets in bed with shoe companies and it becomes a billion dollar industry. When Duke, Kentucky, Kansas, UNC, etc are good and on tv twice a week, it drives hundreds of millions of dollars for those companies. You don't think kids see that Zion wears PG's shoes (maybe not anymore)? They see that and they buy them. It is of paramount importance for the shoe companies to make sure they're good. They go hand and hand and it's been happening for 2 decades. Giving a school whatever money necessary to get elite recruits and get them into their shoes is always a great investment.
Some of you are so fricking stupid about the "Everybody cheats isn't a good excuse." It's not about just paying a kid money. There are so many people you have to pay to help get a kid. That's why guys like the Amite barber pop up. Y'all are delusional and ignorant to the bigger problem.
Posted on 3/13/19 at 7:29 pm to IS_IT_GAMEDAY
They all do, they just follow this one rule:
Posted on 3/13/19 at 8:16 pm to IS_IT_GAMEDAY
I don't know. The people posting on this topic don't know. However, if you cheat, stand up and accept the consequences.
Posted on 3/13/19 at 8:19 pm to IS_IT_GAMEDAY
1045 had a former agent on today who said college basketball is as dirty as you can imagine, and they asked him if it was impossible to do it without being dirty. He said impossible, no. But very very very hard.
He said he actually thinks Virginia is legitimately clean.
He said he actually thinks Virginia is legitimately clean.
Posted on 3/13/19 at 8:34 pm to Adam Banks
Creighton is implicated in all of this. Creighton. For all those regarding Gonzaga how do y’all think they became the best program on the west coast for the last decade?
Good coaching their recruiting classes are always average at best. This is the only time their class has been top 5.
Good coaching their recruiting classes are always average at best. This is the only time their class has been top 5.
This post was edited on 3/13/19 at 8:35 pm
Posted on 3/13/19 at 8:39 pm to IS_IT_GAMEDAY
Believe it or not, I think the last elite coach that didn’t cheat was Bobby Knight. He had other flaws but I think he ran a clean program.
Posted on 3/13/19 at 8:41 pm to Skooter
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He said he actually thinks Virginia is legitimately clean
I could see that
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