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Is there a problem between Wes & Jay?
Posted on 5/22/23 at 11:10 am
Posted on 5/22/23 at 11:10 am
It seems something is out of sync with the pitch calling for most of our relief pitchers. We all can see they haven't been good enough. I don't think this is all on the pitchers. With that in mind, I have noticed Jay and Wes are never talking to each other in the dugout. Anyone know if Jay & Wes are not on same page?
Posted on 5/22/23 at 11:11 am to KWL85
Sure, let's consult the rant.
Posted on 5/22/23 at 11:12 am to KWL85
Nothing to say to each other when you don’t have the horses
Posted on 5/22/23 at 11:13 am to KWL85
Yes. Word at Sonic is they have an evil plan to take each other out.
Posted on 5/22/23 at 11:14 am to KWL85
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It seems something is out of sync with the pitch calling
Way to many curve balls being called when they cannot even throw fastballs for strike consistently.
Posted on 5/22/23 at 11:14 am to KWL85
I don’t see Jay interacting much with any of his assistants during the game FWIW.
Posted on 5/22/23 at 11:16 am to KWL85
I’d assume Wes has full control over pitch calling. And he’s still calling pitches as if he’s the the majors
Posted on 5/22/23 at 11:16 am to KWL85
This post is the definition of grasping for straws
Posted on 5/22/23 at 11:17 am to KWL85
What exactly is out of sync with the pitch calling other than our pitchers’ inability to throw the ball over the plate?
Posted on 5/22/23 at 11:18 am to KWL85
I heard from the friend of a friend that they are meeting later today on the playground to throw down. Let’s go see who wins.
Posted on 5/22/23 at 11:18 am to KWL85
i am perfectly fine with our head coach and assistant not being all buddy buddy
keeps everyone in check
keeps everyone in check
Posted on 5/22/23 at 11:20 am to LSBoosie
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I’d assume Wes has full control over pitch calling.
This is what Jay has said all year. Wes has full control of the in game pitch calling. They get together to decide which pitchers to put in as far as bullpen goes and how they handle the staff.
Posted on 5/22/23 at 11:20 am to KWL85
I think Johnson is doing a fair bit of in-game offensive coaching fwiw
Posted on 5/22/23 at 11:20 am to KWL85
Rumor has it they are stuffing their shoes to get an inch over each other.
Posted on 5/22/23 at 11:22 am to DallasTiger45
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I think Johnson is doing a fair bit of in-game offensive coaching fwiw
Which consists of what exactly?

We don't really ever bunt, hit-and-run, or steal. Is he the one telling Crews and Dugas to watch strike one fastballs before chasing breaking pitches out of the zone?
Posted on 5/22/23 at 11:27 am to KWL85
Ooh another lets read people's body language in the dugout and make wild assumptions thread.
Posted on 5/22/23 at 11:31 am to Indefatigable
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Which consists of what exactly? We don't really ever bunt, hit-and-run, or steal. Is he the one telling Crews and Dugas to watch strike one fastballs before chasing breaking pitches out of the zone?
Reviewing charted pitches for patterns, communicating pitcher scouting reports to the team as relievers come in, going through approaches & small tweaks at the plate with individual hitters
Just normal college baseball coaching things
Posted on 5/22/23 at 11:36 am to KWL85
Today is Dump on Torina Day. Please save all baseball bashing until tomorrow.
Posted on 5/22/23 at 11:37 am to saturncube21
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Nothing to say to each other when you don’t have the horses
So it’s a talent issue?
Posted on 5/22/23 at 11:41 am to KWL85
I mean Wes past speaks for itself on his development with pitchers but he has been extremely underwhelming this year and there's definitely questions with the rotation on pitches which, imo, has been horrible all year. Whoever is responsible for calling in the pitches should be slapped. I've seen conflicting reports on this so not sure what to believe. I've seen them throw like 10 straight breaking balls sometimes.
Not a single pitcher this year has got better in the bullpen. That makes you question coaching. He gets a pass this year but if we see anything similar next year his seat should get hot. A decent chunk of this bullpen is still leftovers from Pawl's era which is understandable. You went for guys like Dutton instead of USM's ace on the mound. That's why PM is in retirement.
Not a single pitcher this year has got better in the bullpen. That makes you question coaching. He gets a pass this year but if we see anything similar next year his seat should get hot. A decent chunk of this bullpen is still leftovers from Pawl's era which is understandable. You went for guys like Dutton instead of USM's ace on the mound. That's why PM is in retirement.
This post was edited on 5/22/23 at 11:45 am
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