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Is SEC headed for a nine game conference schedule?
Posted on 7/22/22 at 9:34 am
Posted on 7/22/22 at 9:34 am
with 16 teams in order to play everybody at least every other year it has to happen.
my example trying to keep major rivalry games being played every year. (sorry to say Bama/Auburn is bigger than LSU/Bama imo) you play your group every year then rotate other 12 teams every other year
Group 1- OU,Mizz,UTx,TAM
Group 2- LSU,ARK,MSU.OM
Group 3- Bama,AU,UTn,Vandy
Group 4- UF,UGA,SC,KY
LSU schedule odd years- ARK,MSU,OM,OU,MIZZ,UTX,TAM,UF,UGA
LSU schedule even year- ARK,MSU,OM,BAMA,Auburn,UTn,Vandy,SC,KY
I know "but we gotta play bama every year, some years we only have 4 sec home games, you're an idiot STFU"
my example trying to keep major rivalry games being played every year. (sorry to say Bama/Auburn is bigger than LSU/Bama imo) you play your group every year then rotate other 12 teams every other year
Group 1- OU,Mizz,UTx,TAM
Group 2- LSU,ARK,MSU.OM
Group 3- Bama,AU,UTn,Vandy
Group 4- UF,UGA,SC,KY
LSU schedule odd years- ARK,MSU,OM,OU,MIZZ,UTX,TAM,UF,UGA
LSU schedule even year- ARK,MSU,OM,BAMA,Auburn,UTn,Vandy,SC,KY
I know "but we gotta play bama every year, some years we only have 4 sec home games, you're an idiot STFU"
Posted on 7/22/22 at 9:47 am to craycray
They will play whatever schedule will bring in the most money.
Posted on 7/22/22 at 9:59 am to craycray
You haven’t been paying attention. There is only one option that works, so that’s what will be done.
9 games, 3 annual matchups, no pods.
9 games, 3 annual matchups, no pods.
This post was edited on 7/22/22 at 10:00 am
Posted on 7/22/22 at 11:53 am to holdem Tiger
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You haven’t been paying attention. There is only one option that works, so that’s what will be done.
9 games, 3 annual matchups, no pods.
How does that work exactly? Are we really talking semantics here? Show me an example of how that is laid out and how they pick the SEC Championship game opponents.
Posted on 7/22/22 at 12:16 pm to craycray
No...8 game conference schedule
Posted on 7/22/22 at 12:39 pm to mdomingue
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How does that work exactly? Are we really talking semantics here? Show me an example of how that is laid out and how they pick the SEC Championship game opponents.
It essentially works the same way as what the OP laid out except you don’t have groupings of 4 teams that all have each other as their 3 annual opponents. Each team would have its own unique group of 3 permanent rivals. Then like the OP has it laid out, each team would play 6 of the remaining 12 teams each year and the other 6 in the next year. There would be no divisions. The championship would match the teams with the two best records with some system of tiebreakers. It makes the most sense from a scheduling perspective, but I think the tiebreakers are going to be a nightmare.
This post was edited on 7/22/22 at 1:08 pm
Posted on 7/22/22 at 12:42 pm to craycray
9 games gives half of the league an extra loss, lowering the chances of getting multiple teams in the playoff. It’ll stay at 8 until the playoff expands.
Posted on 7/22/22 at 12:44 pm to craycray
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Group 2- LSU,ARK,MSU.OM
Oh hell yeah
Posted on 7/22/22 at 4:45 pm to MikeTheTiger71
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It essentially works the same way as what the OP laid out except you don’t have groupings of 4 teams that all have each other as their 3 annual opponents. Each team would have its own unique group of 3 permanent rivals. Then like the OP has it laid out, each team would play 6 of the remaining 12 teams each year and the other 6 in the next year. There would be no divisions. The championship would match the teams with the two best records with some system of tiebreakers. It makes the most sense from a scheduling perspective, but I think the tiebreakers are going to be a nightmare.
I think maybe just rearranging the east west scenario
My thought was that a pod system worked well with one permanent in each 3 (so 3 permanents) or match based on last years finish like they do in the NFL with pod rotations. So like this. You have 4 pods A-D.
Year 1:
Pod A is matched with Pod B plus they plays permanents from C & D ( or the team that finished the same as them last year in C & D)
Pod C is matched with Pod D plus they plays permanents from A & B( or the team that finished the same as them last year in A & B)
Year 2:
Pod A is matched with Pod C plus they plays permanents from B & D ( or the team that finished the same as them last year in B & D)
Pod B is matched with Pod D plus they plays permanents from A & C( or the team that finished the same as them last year in A & C)
Year 3:
Pod A is matched with Pod D plus they plays permanents from B & C ( or the team that finished the same as them last year in B & C)
Pod B is matched with Pod C plus they plays permanents from A & D( or the team that finished the same as them last year in A & D)
Rinse repeat. You play every team in a three year period. The top team in a pairing of pods advances with tiebreakers set up like you would for a division.
9 SEC games per year.
That makes a ton of sense to me but WTF do I know
Appreciate your answer BTW. It was really helpful to me because I had not heard what the ideas were.
Posted on 7/22/22 at 11:33 pm to mdomingue
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My thought was that a pod system worked well with one permanent in each 3 (so 3 permanents) or match based on last years finish like they do in the NFL with pod rotations. So like this. You have 4 pods A-D.
The “pods” and “no pods” options are effectively the same in that you have 3 permanent opponents every year and 6 rotating opponents.
The difference is that with pods, every team in the “pod” has the same permanent opponents (not counting any that are added outside of the pod) while without pods, every team has different permanent opponents.
So for example: Let’s say LSU is in a pod* with Ole Miss, Mississippi State, and Texas A&M. Every year, these teams would have the following permanent opponents:
LSU: Ole Miss, Mississippi State, Texas A&M
Ole Miss: LSU, Mississippi State, Texas A&M
Mississippi State: LSU, Ole Miss, Texas A&M
Texas A&M: LSU, Ole Miss, Mississippi State
Now let’s say those are still LSU’s permanent opponents but without pods. The teams might have the following permanent opponents:
LSU: Ole Miss, Mississippi State, Texas A&M
Ole Miss: LSU, Mississippi State, Auburn
Mississippi State: LSU, Ole Miss, Arkansas
Texas A&M: LSU, Texas, Alabama
(*These examples are completely made up for the sake of argument. Don’t read into them.)
It gives you more flexibility with permanent opponents which ideally allows everyone to play 6 rotating games without sacrificing traditional rivalries. That means you play everybody in the conference over a 2 year period.
With pods, even one permanent opponent outside of the pod eliminates that possibility. But it’s basically impossible to keep everyone happy if pods have to share permanent opponents. Bama wants to play Tennessee and Auburn, Auburn wants to play Bama and Georgia, Georgia wants to play Auburn and Florida, etc.
Everything else - standings, tiebreakers, etc. - works the same for either system. (ETA: It works the same for the version of pods that’s been discussed the most.. not necessarily the same as the system you laid out which is basically rotating divisions.)
This post was edited on 7/22/22 at 11:35 pm
Posted on 7/22/22 at 11:38 pm to lostinbr
Sankey said they won’t have divisions most likely
Posted on 7/22/22 at 11:48 pm to craycray
If anyone thinks the SEC won’t have Texas playing LSU every season, they’re crazy. That’s the two of largest brands and the states border each other.
LSU will drop miss state to play Texas yearly if we have to. It’s going to be a legit rivalry. You can book it.
LSU will drop miss state to play Texas yearly if we have to. It’s going to be a legit rivalry. You can book it.
Posted on 7/23/22 at 6:37 am to craycray
Very simple 3-6-3. Three permanent SEC opponents and six rotating opponents with remaining 12 so you play every SEC every year or next. Three non-conference.
Posted on 7/23/22 at 6:44 am to turnpiketiger
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If anyone thinks the SEC won’t have Texas playing LSU every season, they’re crazy. That’s the two of largest brands and the states border each other.
Texas seems like one of the few schools that has an easy 3 team permanent schedule; Oklahoma, Texas A&M, and Arkansas. They have 3 classic rivals and Arkansas is a bit of a drop down in class compared to the other two. So, Texas won't feel like they are getting the shaft with difficulty. I'd be extremely surprised if we get Texas yearly.
Posted on 7/23/22 at 6:49 am to DestrehanTiger
Texas-Arkansas used to be an old Southwest conference rivalry. If they go to three permanent Texas would definitely get Texas A&M and Oklahoma. The third would be Arkansas or LSU.
Posted on 7/23/22 at 6:51 am to craycray
They’re not doing pods, that was squashed at least two months ago (third paragraph of the link below from Ross Dellenger). They’re not doing divisions. It will be one 16-team league.
If they go to 9 games, you’ll play 3 teams every year, and 6 rotating opponents. But those 3 won’t be the other members of any set 4-team pod. Forget about the pod, roommate switch or any other hare-brained scheme drawn up by some dude from the newest fanboy.com site.
Also, Texas is not going to play A&M, Oklahoma and LSU every year. Teams in the top 8 will play 2 top 8 teams and one bottom 8. So Texas-LSU every year ain’t happening. Texas-Arkansas maybe but it depends on whether Arkansas gets matched with another top 8 instead of Texas. Arkansas is in the bottom 8 so they’d play two bottom 8s and a top 8.
This article explains the top 8/bottom 8 philosophy and which schools fall into which category.
Debate around SEC scheduling
If they go to 9 games, you’ll play 3 teams every year, and 6 rotating opponents. But those 3 won’t be the other members of any set 4-team pod. Forget about the pod, roommate switch or any other hare-brained scheme drawn up by some dude from the newest fanboy.com site.
Also, Texas is not going to play A&M, Oklahoma and LSU every year. Teams in the top 8 will play 2 top 8 teams and one bottom 8. So Texas-LSU every year ain’t happening. Texas-Arkansas maybe but it depends on whether Arkansas gets matched with another top 8 instead of Texas. Arkansas is in the bottom 8 so they’d play two bottom 8s and a top 8.
This article explains the top 8/bottom 8 philosophy and which schools fall into which category.
Debate around SEC scheduling
This post was edited on 7/23/22 at 6:57 am
Posted on 7/23/22 at 9:11 am to DestrehanTiger
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Oklahoma, Texas A&M, and Arkansas. They have 3 classic rivals and Arkansas is a bit of a drop down in class compared to the other two.
Not really they aren’t much different all time. A&M is slightly better but it’s not like a wide margin. They’re in the same light IMO. I don’t view A&M as some historic powerhouse like I would view OU and Texas.
Posted on 7/23/22 at 12:27 pm to craycray
Those groups will never fly with most of the conference
Posted on 7/23/22 at 12:31 pm to craycray
We better. No one is tuning in for that rent-a-win against Middle Tennessee State!
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