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re: Is LSU’s administration committed to winning?

Posted on 10/11/18 at 11:36 pm to
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
127382 posts
Posted on 10/11/18 at 11:36 pm to
The events of the last few years suggests they aren’t
Posted by Jack Crevalle
USVI
Member since Aug 2018
6714 posts
Posted on 10/11/18 at 11:42 pm to
quote:

And The BOS extends FKing,,, they must not care either!!

And don't be shocked if they extend the second stooge Alleva next.

That would leave only the third stooge left, Coach O, ready for his extension after the big win in the Belk Bowl.

Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
20385 posts
Posted on 10/12/18 at 12:31 am to
Nope

Why?

Hired Ed Orgeron
Posted by Bongi
Gonzales, LA
Member since Oct 2008
722 posts
Posted on 10/12/18 at 5:52 am to
Didnt Alleva say something a few years ago that they are not there to win championships? I think he said that they are there to graduate students.
Posted by tenderfoot tigah
Red Stick
Member since Sep 2004
10384 posts
Posted on 10/12/18 at 5:58 am to
They are driven by money and nothing other than money. LSU football needs to be as profitable as possible so they can take more and more money for academics.

What these narrow minded administrators don't realize is they are hamstringing themselves and hurting themselves in the long run.
Posted by Whataburger
95.60 Longitude 30.20 Latitude
Member since Jan 2018
700 posts
Posted on 10/12/18 at 6:12 am to
No!

Only committed to making $$$
and PC bullshite, just look at the WBB coaching extension
Smoke & Mirrors, hype videos, blah blah blah

We need a Gov that puts LSU first in all aspects, until then don't expect any championships.

Hell, the BB Team has gone 10 years without a championship and we're supposed to be the "premiere" program.
Posted by CP3forMVP
Member since Nov 2010
14862 posts
Posted on 10/12/18 at 6:16 am to
I really don't think hiring Orgeron shows they aren't committed to winning. It does show how poor or an athletic director you have though.
Posted by Philzilla2k
Member since Oct 2017
11057 posts
Posted on 10/12/18 at 6:53 am to
No
Head coach salary
Bargain basement coach = bargain basement team
Posted by CapperVin
Member since Apr 2013
10531 posts
Posted on 10/12/18 at 7:14 am to
no
Posted by p&g
Dixie
Member since Jun 2005
12995 posts
Posted on 10/12/18 at 7:19 am to
Yes
Bc it makes money
Therefore they keep their jobs
Posted by tiger perry
Member since Dec 2009
25668 posts
Posted on 10/12/18 at 7:22 am to
No. Not committed to winnng. Just want to be competitive.
Posted by Icansee4miles
Trolling the Tickfaw
Member since Jan 2007
29153 posts
Posted on 10/12/18 at 7:24 am to
No. And the BOS sealed our fate by giving FKIng a raise and extension. As long as that liberal POS is in charge, we are destined to be stuck with being second rate.
Posted by p&g
Dixie
Member since Jun 2005
12995 posts
Posted on 10/12/18 at 7:27 am to
Seems to me none of y’all have stopped to consider the only way to continuously make money is win.
Y’all say no, but I’m same breath you say they want $.


Winning draws in the bucks.
Let us sink into 5-6-7-8 win year or two and see how quickly the fan’s money well drys up.
This post was edited on 10/12/18 at 7:28 am
Posted by Tigerbyte123
Member since Nov 2009
154 posts
Posted on 10/12/18 at 8:52 am to
Absolutely not! The stupidity of trying to do things on the cheap can be assessed by looking at enrollment alone.

2006(pre-Saban)
-2018
LSU+3000 Alabama+10,000

The revenue off of the increase in enrollment alone generates more than enough to invest the money in a top paid winner! Take the LSU situation and add $6mm per year to the head coaches salary and go get your guy. Still pay your assistants the same wages and reap the benefits of growth to your enrollment, endorsements, attendance, increased ticket prices, local and state economy via exposure. Our leadership sucks and can’t see the forest for the trees. It takes money and a commitment to make money! LSU has the $ just not the commitment from the administration. Should we expect more when your BOS is run by a bunch of political appointees with few ties to the university?
This post was edited on 10/12/18 at 9:15 am
Posted by tschla1
Atlanta, GA
Member since Sep 2010
940 posts
Posted on 10/12/18 at 9:15 am to
This!!!
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 10/12/18 at 9:17 am to
quote:

Its not an LSU problem. Its a Louisiana problem. LSU is merely a reflection and manifestation of your average Louisianian:

Afraid to take risks
Stuck in the past
Not forward thinking
Afraid to make waves
Afflicted with group think
Lacks common sense
Lacks intelligence
Hates anything young
Hates anything new
Suffers from Golden Age Syndrome
Insecure around people with greater skill or motivation
Backstabby
Lacks self control
Acts out of emotion
Nepotistic
Doesnt even know theyre in a box to be able to think out of it
Terrible, TERRIBLE with money


You will get downvoted for this, which will make your point for you.

You're 100% correct, though.
Posted by LSUStar
Medellin
Member since Sep 2009
10435 posts
Posted on 10/12/18 at 9:24 am to
Someone mentioned this, but at some point, should this futility continue, one must conclude that the plan is to render the football program toothless. It has looked like that to me for many years.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 10/12/18 at 9:35 am to
quote:

Someone mentioned this, but at some point, should this futility continue, one must conclude that the plan is to render the football program toothless. It has looked like that to me for many years.


I honestly don't think there is any plan to go that far. I don't even think it's that they don't care at least a little. As was stated, poorly, by the fake arse LSU fan above, it does LSU no good for the program to bottom out entirely. That WILL directly effect the bottom line.

I think it's just that they don't see any real difference between what they'd call being competitive and being elite. Even though when you look at Alabama and you can the real world financial benefits that have poured back into the university as a direct result of the excellence they've gotten out of spending what they have on Nick Saban, there seems to be no desire to even try that route here. Whether it's a top down repulsion for athletics to be given so much money from King or simply small minded cheapness from the BOS, I think it's more about getting as much as we can for as little as we can.

It's why I'm terrified of the program going 9-3. That seems like a death sentence for our program, because it's good enough to keep most fans engaged and now that they have their local boy in place at the top, he'll keep most locals arguing to give him more time almost indefinitely.

We're in support of "winning" so long as it doesn't cost too much. We're definitely not interested in excellence, because we can see ht that costs and we can see what we've been willing to spend.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43791 posts
Posted on 10/12/18 at 9:39 am to
We will find out next year after Orgeron has finished year 3 and not won 10 games yet.

Posted by LSUStar
Medellin
Member since Sep 2009
10435 posts
Posted on 10/12/18 at 10:13 am to
quote:

Whether it's a top down repulsion for athletics to be given so much money from King or simply small minded cheapness from the BOS, I think it's more about getting as much as we can for as little as we can.


Quite plausible. This program has gone nowhere since 2012. That's a long dang time. The answer by BOS et al is to hire Eaux. This is a nasty joke on Tiger Nation.
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