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re: Is LSU still viewed as a power house in football?
Posted on 8/26/17 at 5:50 pm to Giantkiller
Posted on 8/26/17 at 5:50 pm to Giantkiller
MICHIGAN and US F'ing C ain't on par with Alabama or OSU. And I'd wait and see what LSU does when there isn't a booger.... err... ahh.. I mean grass eating moron running his All American RB's into brick walls for 4 quarters before I'd say USC and Meechigan are better programs. The fact that LSU has produced more NFL talent than ANY OTHER team in college football over the last decade should put them in the power house conversation!
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Posted on 8/26/17 at 6:00 pm to Ozone1
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Much, much easier to finish higher in a weaker conference. I couldn't care less about top 5 finishes unless you #1. Hell va tech finished top 5 in 2007...Lsu won by 41 head to head. Oregon finished top 5 in 2011...Lsu beat the brakes off them. It is MUCH easier for Ohio St to make a playoff than Lsu
I agree. Take the consensus #1 program in the nation since 2009 off our schedule every freaking year and LSU would likely be the #1 program in the nation over the last 15 years. Just bad luck that Saban is coaching Alabama. It's a perfect storm that has been raging against LSU for over a decade!
Posted on 8/26/17 at 6:19 pm to Jizzy08
JIzzy, ! LSUs record was in sec west going up against alsbama and auburn referees .Can you tell me what our record would have been with the rants favorite coaches !
This post was edited on 8/26/17 at 6:21 pm
Posted on 8/26/17 at 10:47 pm to biohzrd
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How about we blame Leslie for not being able to coach that talent up.
There is a difference between a chef and a cook. Give a chef mediocre ingredients, and he can make it the best thing you've tasted, give a cook the best, and it is just a meal. Les was a cook at best.
show me all these cfb coaches that win consistently without talent.
Saban is widely considered the best coach in modern cfb and he loses to an inferior team every year.
do you know what the great Dabo was doing before getting a game changer at qb? losing 2,3,4,and 7 games a year in a conf with all of 1 other consistent football program in FSU.
no coach wins without talent and anyone that says other wise doesnt pay attention to the entire landscape of cfb.
Posted on 8/26/17 at 10:54 pm to atltiger6487
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No, it was the offense.
we finished above bama,Ohio State and fsu in offensive yards per game and offensive points per game.
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and EXTREMELY predictable play calling.
you clearly dont watch all these spresd teams that run far less variety of plays and out of less formations than we did.
if you watched other programs as much as you watch lsu you pick up their tendencies too.
just like you picked up Jimbo's tendencies here and Crowton' s tendencies.
chip Kelly's entire playbook consists of 4 running plays and he publicly admits it.
Posted on 8/26/17 at 10:58 pm to Tigris Christi
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And I'd wait and see what LSU does when there isn't a booger.... err... ahh.. I mean grass eating moron running his All American RB's into brick walls for 4 quarters
you mean the coach that had as many top 10 finishes as the previous 40 years of lsu football combined?
I swear some of you posters actually believe that 2005-2016 wasnt some of the best years in lsu history.
Posted on 8/26/17 at 11:43 pm to CatsGoneWild
This is halarious, if we aren't, LSU will be back in the conversation at some point this season.
Bet the freakn house on it.
Bet the freakn house on it.
Posted on 8/26/17 at 11:45 pm to Rickdaddy4188
It was great BUT It could have been sooooo much better and everyone but you knows it apparently.
Dude we have the 3rd most blue chip recruits in the nation. We should be where Ohio State is and where Bama is every freakn year. Les Miles was a joke!!!
Dude we have the 3rd most blue chip recruits in the nation. We should be where Ohio State is and where Bama is every freakn year. Les Miles was a joke!!!
Posted on 8/26/17 at 11:59 pm to BayouBengal99
I love the Tigers but any program that had Les Miles as the HC for as long as we did will eventually become irrelevant. A coach whose "specialty" is offense made a living with great defenses and usually (until Les hired his buddy) great special teams. Ironically, Les could have continued to fool the fans if he wasn't so ego driven to think he knew anything about running an offense an just hired forward thinking OC's and let then run the offense. Instead he meddled because he actually thought he was worth his contract and scuttled his own ship. I'm just happy we can start the post Mikes era, not sure if O was the right hire but he isn't Les so I am optimistic.
Posted on 8/26/17 at 11:59 pm to Rickdaddy4188
That's the point man.... It doesn't have to consist of MANY formations, it simply needs to be called in a fashion which keeps the defense guessing. Les Miles was horrible with this.
Canada is a genius at it. You will see the difference this year. We won't have 20 different formations but it will look and seem like 1000 to a defense. That's the point.
Les Miles didn't get all his weapons involved nor did he use the entire field. They lined up in different formations, YES but then ran right at the defense in a different formation. It's not hard to fill gaps and beat lineman with there are only so many places a RB can go out of a formation. If Les would have changed tendencies when it counted like on the GL then LSU would have been much more affective.
After Les was fired all we did was get the FBs and TEs involved in the flats and underneath coverages which made our offense so much more affective. His offense could have been unstoppable with the right play caller, and if he would have let that guy call his plays in the pattern he wished. I would see the run working, the OL taking over on a particular drive and for no good reason, they would then spread the team out then pass. I would also see them run into walls over and over without even trying to run an easy route for the FB or TE to loosen the defense up while getting your QB/offense into a rhythm. That's how offenses work, in rhythm, and more times then not Les Miles teams would take themselves out of rhythm. It was the craziest football I had ever watching in my life.
Canada is a genius at it. You will see the difference this year. We won't have 20 different formations but it will look and seem like 1000 to a defense. That's the point.
Les Miles didn't get all his weapons involved nor did he use the entire field. They lined up in different formations, YES but then ran right at the defense in a different formation. It's not hard to fill gaps and beat lineman with there are only so many places a RB can go out of a formation. If Les would have changed tendencies when it counted like on the GL then LSU would have been much more affective.
After Les was fired all we did was get the FBs and TEs involved in the flats and underneath coverages which made our offense so much more affective. His offense could have been unstoppable with the right play caller, and if he would have let that guy call his plays in the pattern he wished. I would see the run working, the OL taking over on a particular drive and for no good reason, they would then spread the team out then pass. I would also see them run into walls over and over without even trying to run an easy route for the FB or TE to loosen the defense up while getting your QB/offense into a rhythm. That's how offenses work, in rhythm, and more times then not Les Miles teams would take themselves out of rhythm. It was the craziest football I had ever watching in my life.
Posted on 8/27/17 at 12:42 am to BayouBengal99
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It was great BUT It could have been sooooo much better and everyone but you knows it apparently.
compared to who?
who are you bringing in that for sure recruited as well as miles? or are you one of those that think lsu recruits itself.
if its so easy for other coaches to do better then why aren't they doing it at their school?
maybe you just don't pay attention but I've repeatedly said a better tactician wouldve won more than Miles did with that talent. try to keep up instead of just responding with a rebuttal.
also, you don't KNOW anything couldve been better. you think. your opinion is no better than mine
This post was edited on 8/27/17 at 1:19 am
Posted on 8/27/17 at 12:46 am to BayouBengal99
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That's how offenses work, in rhythm, and more times then not Les Miles teams would take themselves out of rhythm. It was the craziest football I had ever watching in my life.
then you clearly only watch lsu
This post was edited on 8/27/17 at 12:50 am
Posted on 8/27/17 at 8:40 am to Rickdaddy4188
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you clearly dont watch all these spresd teams that run far less variety of plays and out of less formations than we did.
it's not about the number of formations a team uses or the variety of plays - it's about the PREDICTABILITY of who's getting the ball, and where.
I don't mind running the ball up the middle, just don't do it when the defense is expecting it and don't tip them off. Keep them guessing as to what's coming.
It doesn't take dozens of formations and hundreds of different plays to do that.
Posted on 8/27/17 at 9:11 am to Rickdaddy4188
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you mean the coach that had as many top 10 finishes as the previous 40 years of lsu football combined?
I swear some of you posters actually believe that 2005-2016 wasnt some of the best years in lsu history.
So would you say:
a) LSU is a power house b/c LM ran a balanced unpredictable offense
b) LSU is a power house inspite of LM's incompetent offenses, b/c LSU is still loaded.
c) LSU isn't a power house because Saban lived in LM's head.
d) LSU isn't a power house b/c the fans didn't appreciate LM's 70's style offense.
Posted on 8/27/17 at 8:51 pm to Tigris Christi
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LSU is a power house b/c LM ran a balanced unpredictable offense
lsu is a powerhouse because we have been one of the most consistently good teams since 2000.
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LSU is a power house inspite of LM's incompetent offenses, b/c LSU is still loaded.
miles has also been the coach for some of the most productive offenses in lsu history
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LSU isn't a power house because Saban lived in LM's head.
wanna take a guess how many coaches have beaten Saban more than Miles has?
if you're using success against bama as a line for powerhouse then bama is the only powerhouse in the country.
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LSU isn't a power house b/c the fans didn't appreciate LM's 70's style offense.
fan's opinions don't affect powerhouse status.
This post was edited on 8/27/17 at 10:38 pm
Posted on 8/27/17 at 11:26 pm to CatsGoneWild
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Posted on 9/17/17 at 9:45 pm to CatsGoneWild
No, we aren't a power house anymore
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