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ShortyRob
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Is it fair to say that in 2019, NOBODY has figured out how to defend modern offenses?
Seems to me, that basically, no one has figured out how to consistently scheme to stop modern offenses.

The only time people succeed is when they have two dudes in the middle who are completely unblockable which isn't exactly scheme.

Absent that. Seems that pretty much everyone is getting schooled
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FreddieMac
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re: Is it fair to say that in 2019, NOBODY has figured out how to defend modern offenses?
The only way to defend it is with getting to the QB before he can complete the pass.


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re: Is it fair to say that in 2019, NOBODY has figured out how to defend modern offenses?
Agree 100%. You have to wonder if this is the way it’s going to be for a long time or will the defensive 9-6 type games come back or are they gone for good? They say sports can be cyclical, but I don’t think defense will be in style for at least 5 or so years.


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re: Is it fair to say that in 2019, NOBODY has figured out how to defend modern offenses?
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The only way to defend it is with getting to the QB before he can complete the pass


And even then, if you're doing it with anything but DL, they eat you up eventually


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ShortyRob
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re: Is it fair to say that in 2019, NOBODY has figured out how to defend modern offenses?
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Agree 100%. You have to wonder if this is the way it’s going to be for a long time or will the defensive 9-6 type games come back or are they gone for good? They say sports can be cyclical, but I don’t think defense will be in style for at least 5 or so years.


I think the only way defense becomes a thing again is for the rules pendulum to swing back.


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re: Is it fair to say that in 2019, NOBODY has figured out how to defend modern offenses?
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Seems to me, that basically, no one has figured out how to consistently scheme to stop modern offenses.

The only time people succeed is when they have two dudes in the middle who are completely unblockable which isn't exactly scheme.

Absent that. Seems that pretty much everyone is getting schooled



Aranda bashers will not like this post.


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re: Is it fair to say that in 2019, NOBODY has figured out how to defend modern offenses?
These offenses are forcing defenses to defend the ENTIRE field as opposed to parts of it. In the past, offenses were based around one strength like a running game, vertical passing game, etc.


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ShortyRob
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re: Is it fair to say that in 2019, NOBODY has figured out how to defend modern offenses?
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Aranda bashers will not like this post

This is why I've defended him. Other than that one call, I just think that a look around the country shows modern offense wins pretty much everywhere


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re: Is it fair to say that in 2019, NOBODY has figured out how to defend modern offenses?
I honestly think that the rules of football currently regarding how much you can be physical with WRs intentionally made offenses so hard to stop. Just like basketball, I think the head honchos of football recognized that people like to watch high scoring games and instituted rules to give the people want they want. Thats why handchecking and the defensive 3 second rule were created in the NBA. To facilitate more scoring. That is just the ways things are going now and also why lower scoring games (like baseball) are less popular with younger crowds.


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re: Is it fair to say that in 2019, NOBODY has figured out how to defend modern offenses?
Not possible with current rules unless you have a dominant DL or extreme talent disparities between both teams


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re: Is it fair to say that in 2019, NOBODY has figured out how to defend modern offenses?
I would agree.

However, if the game was played with 1980-1990’s officiating it could possibly be stopped


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re: Is it fair to say that in 2019, NOBODY has figured out how to defend modern offenses?
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This is why I've defended him. Other than that one call, I just think that a look around the country shows modern offense wins pretty much everywhere


They point to the 31 ppg Aranda has given up in our last 4 top 10 match ups. They should take a look at what Saban has done in his last 4.


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re: Is it fair to say that in 2019, NOBODY has figured out how to defend modern offenses?
They need to start penalizing lineman as ineligible receivers downfield 1 yard beyond the LOS like the NFL does. They also need to adopt the two feet in bounds on a catch like the NFL.


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ShortyRob
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re: Is it fair to say that in 2019, NOBODY has figured out how to defend modern offenses?
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They point to the 31 ppg Aranda has given up in our last 4 top 10 match ups. They should take a look at what Saban has done in his last


What EVERYONE has done.

Clemson last year had some success but their DL was absurd.

That's basically the "scheme" you have to have. Even then....... Borderline


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ShortyRob
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re: Is it fair to say that in 2019, NOBODY has figured out how to defend modern offenses?
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However, if the game was played with 1980-1990’s officiating it could possibly be stopped

Well yes

The rules pendulum has gone off the rails


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Htowntiger90
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re: Is it fair to say that in 2019, NOBODY has figured out how to defend modern offenses?
Yep. Offenses are ahead of defenses everywhere. Your best best to even slow them down is with elite CB's and dominant D-linemen that can get to the QB.

It will be interesting to see how our D looks in a couple of years, if our 2020 D-line commits are as good as advertised to go with our CB's.



dome53
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re: Is it fair to say that in 2019, NOBODY has figured out how to defend modern offenses?
A consistently great and deep Dline is about the only way


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ShortyRob
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re: Is it fair to say that in 2019, NOBODY has figured out how to defend modern offenses?
It's like today, "good defense" is defined as "gets a couple critical stops" and can prevent the other team from just grinding clock at the end.

Other than that? Meh
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Gorilla Ball
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re: Is it fair to say that in 2019, NOBODY has figured out how to defend modern offenses?
In addition any leverage or advantages that defenses used to have are being changed as an advantage to the offense. For example: face mask (usually called on defense- tackling) is always 15 yards, hands to face - defensive linemen could us this as leverage to get a advantage over offensive players.
I’m sure there are others I’m missing


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Will2nd
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re: Is it fair to say that in 2019, NOBODY has figured out how to defend modern offenses?
A QB that is not intimidated and is a competitor in the right offense makes it tough on any defense.


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