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Is it fair to say that in 2019, NOBODY has figured out how to defend modern offenses?Posted by ShortyRob 
on 11/12/19 at 8:47 am
on 11/12/19 at 8:47 am
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3Seems to me, that basically, no one has figured out how to consistently scheme to stop modern offenses.
The only time people succeed is when they have two dudes in the middle who are completely unblockable which isn't exactly scheme.
Absent that. Seems that pretty much everyone is getting schooled
The only time people succeed is when they have two dudes in the middle who are completely unblockable which isn't exactly scheme.
Absent that. Seems that pretty much everyone is getting schooled
This post was edited on 11/12 at 8:48 am
re: Is it fair to say that in 2019, NOBODY has figured out how to defend modern offenses?Posted by FreddieMac on 11/12/19 at 8:48 am to ShortyRob
on 11/12/19 at 8:48 am to ShortyRobThe only way to defend it is with getting to the QB before he can complete the pass.
re: Is it fair to say that in 2019, NOBODY has figured out how to defend modern offenses?Posted by Paul Allen 
on 11/12/19 at 8:49 am to ShortyRob
on 11/12/19 at 8:49 am to ShortyRobAgree 100%. You have to wonder if this is the way it’s going to be for a long time or will the defensive 9-6 type games come back or are they gone for good? They say sports can be cyclical, but I don’t think defense will be in style for at least 5 or so years.
re: Is it fair to say that in 2019, NOBODY has figured out how to defend modern offenses?Posted by ShortyRob on 11/12/19 at 8:49 am to FreddieMac
on 11/12/19 at 8:49 am to FreddieMacquote:
The only way to defend it is with getting to the QB before he can complete the pass
And even then, if you're doing it with anything but DL, they eat you up eventually
re: Is it fair to say that in 2019, NOBODY has figured out how to defend modern offenses?Posted by ShortyRob on 11/12/19 at 8:50 am to Paul Allen
on 11/12/19 at 8:50 am to Paul Allenquote:
Agree 100%. You have to wonder if this is the way it’s going to be for a long time or will the defensive 9-6 type games come back or are they gone for good? They say sports can be cyclical, but I don’t think defense will be in style for at least 5 or so years.
I think the only way defense becomes a thing again is for the rules pendulum to swing back.
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Seems to me, that basically, no one has figured out how to consistently scheme to stop modern offenses.
The only time people succeed is when they have two dudes in the middle who are completely unblockable which isn't exactly scheme.
Absent that. Seems that pretty much everyone is getting schooled
Aranda bashers will not like this post.
re: Is it fair to say that in 2019, NOBODY has figured out how to defend modern offenses?Posted by TigerAlum93 on 11/12/19 at 8:51 am to ShortyRob
These offenses are forcing defenses to defend the ENTIRE field as opposed to parts of it. In the past, offenses were based around one strength like a running game, vertical passing game, etc.
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Aranda bashers will not like this post
This is why I've defended him. Other than that one call, I just think that a look around the country shows modern offense wins pretty much everywhere
re: Is it fair to say that in 2019, NOBODY has figured out how to defend modern offenses?Posted by PhillyFan1994 
on 11/12/19 at 8:52 am to ShortyRob
on 11/12/19 at 8:52 am to ShortyRobI honestly think that the rules of football currently regarding how much you can be physical with WRs intentionally made offenses so hard to stop. Just like basketball, I think the head honchos of football recognized that people like to watch high scoring games and instituted rules to give the people want they want. Thats why handchecking and the defensive 3 second rule were created in the NBA. To facilitate more scoring. That is just the ways things are going now and also why lower scoring games (like baseball) are less popular with younger crowds.
re: Is it fair to say that in 2019, NOBODY has figured out how to defend modern offenses?Posted by Oilfieldbiology on 11/12/19 at 8:54 am to ShortyRob
on 11/12/19 at 8:54 am to ShortyRobI would agree.
However, if the game was played with 1980-1990’s officiating it could possibly be stopped
However, if the game was played with 1980-1990’s officiating it could possibly be stopped
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This is why I've defended him. Other than that one call, I just think that a look around the country shows modern offense wins pretty much everywhere
They point to the 31 ppg Aranda has given up in our last 4 top 10 match ups. They should take a look at what Saban has done in his last 4.
re: Is it fair to say that in 2019, NOBODY has figured out how to defend modern offenses?Posted by Colonel Angus on 11/12/19 at 8:55 am to ShortyRob
on 11/12/19 at 8:55 am to ShortyRobThey need to start penalizing lineman as ineligible receivers downfield 1 yard beyond the LOS like the NFL does. They also need to adopt the two feet in bounds on a catch like the NFL.
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They point to the 31 ppg Aranda has given up in our last 4 top 10 match ups. They should take a look at what Saban has done in his last
What EVERYONE has done.
Clemson last year had some success but their DL was absurd.
That's basically the "scheme" you have to have. Even then....... Borderline
re: Is it fair to say that in 2019, NOBODY has figured out how to defend modern offenses?Posted by ShortyRob on 11/12/19 at 8:56 am to Oilfieldbiology
on 11/12/19 at 8:56 am to Oilfieldbiologyquote:
However, if the game was played with 1980-1990’s officiating it could possibly be stopped
Well yes
The rules pendulum has gone off the rails
re: Is it fair to say that in 2019, NOBODY has figured out how to defend modern offenses?Posted by Htowntiger90 on 11/12/19 at 8:56 am to ShortyRob
on 11/12/19 at 8:56 am to ShortyRobYep. Offenses are ahead of defenses everywhere. Your best best to even slow them down is with elite CB's and dominant D-linemen that can get to the QB.
It will be interesting to see how our D looks in a couple of years, if our 2020 D-line commits are as good as advertised to go with our CB's.
It will be interesting to see how our D looks in a couple of years, if our 2020 D-line commits are as good as advertised to go with our CB's.
re: Is it fair to say that in 2019, NOBODY has figured out how to defend modern offenses?Posted by ShortyRob on 11/12/19 at 8:57 am to Htowntiger90
on 11/12/19 at 8:57 am to Htowntiger90It's like today, "good defense" is defined as "gets a couple critical stops" and can prevent the other team from just grinding clock at the end.
Other than that? Meh
Other than that? Meh
This post was edited on 11/12 at 9:00 am
re: Is it fair to say that in 2019, NOBODY has figured out how to defend modern offenses?Posted by Gorilla Ball on 11/12/19 at 9:01 am to ShortyRob
on 11/12/19 at 9:01 am to ShortyRobIn addition any leverage or advantages that defenses used to have are being changed as an advantage to the offense. For example: face mask (usually called on defense- tackling) is always 15 yards, hands to face - defensive linemen could us this as leverage to get a advantage over offensive players.
I’m sure there are others I’m missing
I’m sure there are others I’m missing
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