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re: Into the wild (N2daWild) wild baseball predictions
Posted on 8/3/22 at 9:07 am to MOT
Posted on 8/3/22 at 9:07 am to MOT
I like guidry at 2B at least to start. Morgan saves too many outs at 1B. It’s not like putting white or Skenes at 1B will great improve defense on the left side. It’s a net negative… by a lot. We have too many OFs already. Dugas Kling Crews Pearson… then Stevenson maybe Skenes…
Jay also seemed to love late subs last year especially PHs to get the matchup he wanted or when the bottom came up in a big spot. That may have been somewhat due to our lack of guys who did both defense and hitting well, but I think it’s his mindset too. He’s going to have more options this year for sure. We could see subs as early as the 4th inning with the depth we have. It’ll be interesting if he starts games focusing on bats or defense then what he switches to.
Jay also seemed to love late subs last year especially PHs to get the matchup he wanted or when the bottom came up in a big spot. That may have been somewhat due to our lack of guys who did both defense and hitting well, but I think it’s his mindset too. He’s going to have more options this year for sure. We could see subs as early as the 4th inning with the depth we have. It’ll be interesting if he starts games focusing on bats or defense then what he switches to.
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Posted on 8/3/22 at 9:11 am to ell_13
I don't see Tre playing much OF, simply from a health standpoint. Once he moves on from here, he may play more OF bc they have time for him to work through any bumps and bruises.
Posted on 8/3/22 at 9:24 am to ell_13
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It’s not like putting white or Skenes at 1B will great improve defense on the left side. It’s a net negative… by a lot. We have too many OFs already. Dugas Kling Crews Pearson…
Kling is a true freshman and Dugas may be needed on the infield. White will have to be in the lineup somewhere and having him at 1B or DH, if the other pieces work out, is much better than having him at 3B.
Posted on 8/3/22 at 9:30 am to DRock88
quote:That was definitely the case after the knee injury at State. But before then there wasn’t a need to get another bat in the lineup that was limited to 1B, so there wasn’t even a decision to have to make or experiment with. That bridge may have to be crossed next season if White can’t play 3B at a serviceable level and Skenes doesn’t play corner OF on his off days.
He probably would have played more OF here already if not for injuries.
Posted on 8/3/22 at 9:33 am to MOT
He came to school coming off of a season ending injury pitching in high school. It's very likely why he even made it to campus. Had he been healthy from jump, they would have looked at him in the OF more.
Posted on 8/3/22 at 9:40 am to FriscoTiger
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Why is everyone so sure that Morgan is a good outfielder?
Morgan played the OF asrecently as this summer with the Team USA Collegiate National team.
The catches he makes on fly balls at 1B while going backwards is amongst the elite of elite. Professional 1B do not make the plays on balls that he makes. It shows tremendous hand-eye, concentration, and body control. Moving to the OF would be a cake walk for him.
And let’s face it, with the amount of people who had no issue with the OF play of Stevenson, Dugas, or Pearson, no one would even notice Morgan out there:
This post was edited on 8/3/22 at 9:45 am
Posted on 8/3/22 at 9:50 am to Lester Earl
It’s not about his OF play for me. It’s about his 1B play which you mention. He saves a ton of outs. He’s more valuable there than anywhere based on who his replacement would be. The same can’t be said for white at 3B.
Posted on 8/3/22 at 9:50 am to mkemp0113
Is Morgan the best 1st baseman in the country?
Posted on 8/3/22 at 9:56 am to MOT
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Kling is a true freshman and Dugas may be needed on the infield. White will have to be in the lineup somewhere and having him at 1B or DH, if the other pieces work out, is much better than having him at 3B.
I think much of your belief about what is best is predicated on the assumption that White won’t be serviceable at 3B. You could absolutely be correct in that assessment, but it’s clear Jay Johnson does not feel the same. If White is serviceable at 3B, I don’t see a scenario where it’s better to have him at 1B or DH. It’s not like we’ll have solid defenders at all the infield positions under any circumstance. Had Young come, I could see an argument that an IF of Young/Thompson/Guidry would be the best outcome. Now, you’re going to have to have either Dugas or White (or both) in the infield. Again, it may very well be that Dugas turns out to be the better option, but that’s only if White isn’t serviceable at 3B. Then, and only then, does it make sense to push Morgan off 1B.
Posted on 8/3/22 at 9:58 am to ell_13
Having a good glove at 1B is a luxury, not a necessity. If you have to hide guys it’s best that he probably moves
Posted on 8/3/22 at 10:07 am to Lester Earl
quote:Same can be said for a corner OF spot. But taking him out of the infield raises the E rate for every position not just the one you’re trying to replace. And the replacement for white isn’t going to be that much better either. If we had someone like Cranford or young, you’d have a point but they’re gone.
Having a good glove at 1B is a luxury, not a necessity. If you have to hide guys it’s best that he probably moves
Posted on 8/3/22 at 10:27 am to ell_13
I get how he can save runs. But if moving him means you have better defensive balance & optimal lineup, you do it.
White played more 1B last year than 3B. It’s where he actually started the season. I would be comfortable with him there without even seeing him.
Hypothetically, Guidry could play 3B, Dugas 2B, and I think you’d come out ok
White played more 1B last year than 3B. It’s where he actually started the season. I would be comfortable with him there without even seeing him.
Hypothetically, Guidry could play 3B, Dugas 2B, and I think you’d come out ok
Posted on 8/3/22 at 10:38 am to Lester Earl
I think Morgan playing 1B/OF will all depend on if Guidry and Kling plays themselves into the lineup. If Kling doesn't take a spot I can see Morgan going out in the OF if Guidry takes an IF spot. Something like Guidry/Thompson at SS/3B and Dugas at 2B with White at 1B. Morgan goes to corner OF with Pearson in the other spot. Still keeping DH open to plenty others. Stevenson is also an * in this scenario, but he did not improve much on his swing and miss this summer. I will have to see some improvement there before him being a huge threat to take an OF spot.
If Kling takes an OF spot and Guidry plays himself into the IF also is when things can get really interesting.
If Kling takes an OF spot and Guidry plays himself into the IF also is when things can get really interesting.
This post was edited on 8/3/22 at 10:40 am
Posted on 8/3/22 at 10:51 am to BayTiger13
quote:Who do you think Kling is moving out if he takes a spot in the OF?
I think Morgan playing 1B/OF will all depend on if Guidry and Kling plays themselves into the lineup. If Kling doesn't take a spot I can see Morgan going out in the OF
Posted on 8/3/22 at 11:03 am to Lester Earl
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Hypothetically, Guidry could play 3B, Dugas 2B, and I think you’d come out ok
This is the part I don’t understand. How is Dugas at 2B that much better than White at 3B, especially if it means you have to move Morgan off 1B and leave yourself vulnerable on the entire right side of the IF? 2B is more important defensive position than 3B anyway.
Posted on 8/3/22 at 11:20 am to MikeTheTiger71
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2B is more important defensive position than 3B anyway.
Nah; they are about equal. Dugas has played a little 2B. I don’t think he has the arm for 3B.
Posted on 8/3/22 at 11:22 am to MikeTheTiger71
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assumption that White won’t be serviceable at 3B.
This is a faulty assumption. White will surprise people with his athleticism and hands. He will be fine at 3B
Posted on 8/3/22 at 11:28 am to Toptigerfan86
quote:Based on what specifically? This was a report on him leading up to the 2021 draft and the only thing he has done at 3B since then was play 6 games there for NC State and make 3 errors in those games.
This is a faulty assumption
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Despite White’s promise at the plate, he has shown signs of concern in the field. Currently a corner infielder at IMG Academy, White’s poor fielding will likely lead to a permanent move to first base. This isn’t uncommon for players transitioning to professional baseball, but it still restricts any long-term projection of the 18-year-old. Specifically, White’s larger frame impedes his ability to be an above-average third baseman. His build limits him in terms of both range, fluidity, and glovework.
White’s biggest weakness is speed. He won’t be a base-stealer, and his subpar speed limits any range needed to play third base. It also restricts him from moving to the corner outfield positions. Nobody is expecting elite speed from a power-hitting corner infielder, but at the end of the day, it still factors into his draft stock.
Posted on 8/3/22 at 11:31 am to MOT
He doesn't have to move anyone out. To start it will likely be his job to lose from the beginning with Dugas moving to the IF. If he is struggling and doesn't do well enough to stay in the OF then I can see Morgan going to the OF if Guidry is playing well.
When it is all said and done I believe Morgan will be at 1B the majority of the season. My point the last few posts I made is that Morgan isn't stuck at 1B because of his defense. It will all depend on the people around him like other people have said as well.
Will have plenty options so speaking about who will play where right now with certainty is pointless. Only players you know will be Crews in CF and Millazo/Neal catching.
Just for fun, what if Neal can play 3B if we need him to. Not saying he can because I don't have a clue on his ability on the IF. Just know he is athletic so seems like he can maybe play a little 3B.
When it is all said and done I believe Morgan will be at 1B the majority of the season. My point the last few posts I made is that Morgan isn't stuck at 1B because of his defense. It will all depend on the people around him like other people have said as well.
Will have plenty options so speaking about who will play where right now with certainty is pointless. Only players you know will be Crews in CF and Millazo/Neal catching.
Just for fun, what if Neal can play 3B if we need him to. Not saying he can because I don't have a clue on his ability on the IF. Just know he is athletic so seems like he can maybe play a little 3B.
Posted on 8/3/22 at 11:31 am to Lester Earl
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Nah; they are about equal. Dugas has played a little 2B. I don’t think he has the arm for 3B.
If you look at MLB history, there are a lot more power hitters at 3B than 2B and a lot more 2B regarded as great defenders than 3B. That is an indication that 2B is more important defensively or at least more difficult to play. Even if the two are of equal importance as you say, I wasn’t arguing whether Dugas should be at 2B or 3B. My question was why you would consider it preferable to weaken our defense at both 1B and 2B versus only 3B. Dugas at 2B, White at 1B and Morgan at OF puts three players in a spot that isn’t their optimal position. White at 3B only puts one player at a suboptimal spot.
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