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Interesting article by Dan Wetzel re playoffs changes he thinks would work
Posted on 12/4/17 at 1:41 am
Posted on 12/4/17 at 1:41 am
He includes playing the semifinals on campus, eliminating conference championship games since some of those don't matter anyway, and having an 8 team playoff. A lot of what he says makes sense.
"Here's the solution to college football's inefficient and (often) meaningless postseason"
LINK
"Here's the solution to college football's inefficient and (often) meaningless postseason"
LINK
This post was edited on 12/4/17 at 2:07 am
Posted on 12/4/17 at 2:07 am to GeauxLSU8
Q: With no CG who would have gone from the SEC this year???
A: Auburn.
Are you happy with that?
A: Auburn.
Are you happy with that?
Posted on 12/4/17 at 2:10 am to Flame Salamander
He explains in the article. Auburn, Ga, and Bama all would have gone.
"Here’s what this year’s playoff would look like (using committee rankings from Nov. 28, pre-conference title games) and giving UCF the No. 8 spot.
No. 8 UCF at No. 1 Clemson
No. 7 USC at No. 2 Auburn
No. 6 Georgia at No. 3 Oklahoma
No. 5 Alabama at No. 4 Wisconsin"
"Here’s what this year’s playoff would look like (using committee rankings from Nov. 28, pre-conference title games) and giving UCF the No. 8 spot.
No. 8 UCF at No. 1 Clemson
No. 7 USC at No. 2 Auburn
No. 6 Georgia at No. 3 Oklahoma
No. 5 Alabama at No. 4 Wisconsin"
Posted on 12/4/17 at 2:19 am to GeauxLSU8
OK. I didn't read the article but did he have a formula that he used or is he just coming up with these teams in hindsight?
Miami would probably have not liked that idea.....and neither would have Ohio State.....in hindsight they would have had a point.
btw.....I would like an 8 game playoff too.
Edit: I went back and read his article. The problem I see is that the Conference Championship games were designed to also help overcome the unequal play across divisions within a conference so that the truly strongest team in a conference got in. Again, this year Wisconsin was undefeated, had a poor SOS and got beat in the Conf. Championship game.....but using his ideas they would have been in amongst the 8 teams and not Ohio State.
And again, why did he arbitrarily leave Miami out.....they were one loss, top 8 prior to the ACC Championship game?
Miami would probably have not liked that idea.....and neither would have Ohio State.....in hindsight they would have had a point.
btw.....I would like an 8 game playoff too.
Edit: I went back and read his article. The problem I see is that the Conference Championship games were designed to also help overcome the unequal play across divisions within a conference so that the truly strongest team in a conference got in. Again, this year Wisconsin was undefeated, had a poor SOS and got beat in the Conf. Championship game.....but using his ideas they would have been in amongst the 8 teams and not Ohio State.
And again, why did he arbitrarily leave Miami out.....they were one loss, top 8 prior to the ACC Championship game?
This post was edited on 12/4/17 at 2:30 am
Posted on 12/4/17 at 7:52 am to Flame Salamander
quote:
A: Auburn. Are you happy with that?
Yes, they tied with 2 teams they beat at 7-1
Posted on 12/4/17 at 7:56 am to GeauxLSU8
No Ohio State, I can live with that
Posted on 12/4/17 at 8:01 am to Flame Salamander
I too like an 8 team playoff with 5 Conference champions and 3 at large. But seems the Conference Championship games between divisions is the natural precursor to this format. So if an underfeated team is upset in their CC, they could still earn an at large bid.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 8:05 am to GeauxLSU8
No. 9-12 would have a reason to argue they should have been in. It never stops. Bama will win the championship and shut all this talk up about how they don't deserve to be there.
69-0 in the last two years of playoffs. That's the score of the Rest v. The Big Ten. Just stop it.
69-0 in the last two years of playoffs. That's the score of the Rest v. The Big Ten. Just stop it.
This post was edited on 12/4/17 at 3:22 pm
Posted on 12/4/17 at 8:07 am to Im4LSUnTN
quote:
I too like an 8 team playoff with 5 Conference champions and 3 at large.
And if the conference championship losers get in? It's not different than the current system. Does anyone really believe Ohio State or USC are more likely to win the championship than Bama?
Posted on 12/4/17 at 8:13 am to GeauxLSU8
its a scam....conferences like the Conference USA never have a legit shot.....The scam is to make them think they are all on level footing, when the NCAA sees them as being inferior,,,why shouldn't an undefeated UCF team get a shot.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 8:14 am to Flame Salamander
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Conference Championship games were designed to also help overcome the unequal play across divisions within a conference so that the truly strongest team in a conference got in
That’s a grossly over romantized view. CCG were really designed for extra revenue. Many times they are unnecessary. Of the P5 only the ACC didn’t have a clear champ based on the regular season. Clemson and Miami ties but didn’t play. In an ideal world they could do it if necessary, alas that would never happen. With Wisconsin I get they had an easy schedule that’s a problem with the B1G divisions, I thought it was better before, without the stupid Leaders and Legends names I don’t get peoples obsession sometimes geographic correctness.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 8:18 am to GeauxLSU8
That late extra home game for the higher seed is what I’ve been absolutely begging for.
But the conferences see $$$$ in the championship games so good luck there.
But the conferences see $$$$ in the championship games so good luck there.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 11:25 am to H-Town Tiger
quote:
quote: Conference Championship games were designed to also help overcome the unequal play across divisions within a conference so that the truly strongest team in a conference got in That’s a grossly over romantized view. CCG were really designed for extra revenue. Many times they are unnecessary. Of the P5 only the ACC didn’t have a clear champ based on the regular season. Clemson and Miami ties but didn’t play. In an ideal world they could do it if necessary, alas that would never happen. With Wisconsin I get they had an easy schedule that’s a problem with the B1G divisions, I thought it was better before, without the stupid Leaders and Legends names I don’t get peoples obsession sometimes geographic correctness.
And I think that's the problem that a CCG addresses. Admittedly, I would like the P5s to do away with the CCGs for the reasons stated in the article. That said, the SEC could have the same problem as the Big 10 this year. Conceivably, in a Georgia down year and a good Mizzou year, Mizzou could go undefeated in the SEC having beaten only the entire weak SEC East, Arkansas, and SEC West teams not named Alabama, Auburn, or LSU. The other option, I suppose, would be to force the teams to cut out two of the rent-a-win games in exchange for two other conference opponents???
Posted on 12/4/17 at 12:00 pm to go ta hell ole miss
quote:
Bama will win the championship and stut all this talk up about how they don't deserve to be there.
the bama board is that way -------->
go join your colleagues.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 12:05 pm to GeauxLSU8
quote:
No. 8 UCF at No. 1 Clemson
No. 7 USC at No. 2 Auburn
No. 6 Georgia at No. 3 Oklahoma
No. 5 Alabama at No. 4 Wisconsin"
Exactly
Playing the extra game hurt Wisconsin, Auburn and Miami possibly TCU? Alabama gets rewarded for not playing in a conference championship game and coming out 3rd in SEC.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 1:11 pm to go ta hell ole miss
quote:
Bama will win the championship and stut all this talk up about how they don't deserve to be there.
Glad you took time off from fantasizing about your dad to come post!
Posted on 12/4/17 at 1:24 pm to GeauxLSU8
quote:
He includes playing the semifinals on campus, eliminating conference championship games since some of those don't matter anyway, and having an 8 team playoff.
Seeing as the conference championship games (at least some of them) are big money-makers and good PR for the conferences, I don't see them being phased-out en masse.
I think a more realistic plan for an 8-team playoff would be keeping the P5 conference championship games (structuring the Big 12 similar to the way it used to be), with the winners getting an automatic berth in the playoffs. The other 3 spots would be at-large spots chosen by the committee with any team in the top 6 of the CFP rankings getting an auto-bid, if they weren't already a conference champ. The committee would also be in charge of seeding the 8 teams.
Your playoff this year would probably be:
Clemson vs. USC
Oklahoma vs. Auburn
Georgia vs. Wisconsin
Alabama vs. Ohio State
This post was edited on 12/4/17 at 1:32 pm
Posted on 12/4/17 at 3:24 pm to Fat Bastard
Sorry, big guy, I am a realist, definitely not a Bama guy. Just between you and I, since you are so confident Bama will not win it all, what odds are you willing to give me and how much money will you bet?
Yep, call you out!
Yep, call you out!
Posted on 12/4/17 at 3:58 pm to GeauxLSU8
no. Conference championships are fantastic events. Whether teams get into the playoff, winning a conference is a massive accomplish, treasured by all.
Of course, the most simple and fair approach seems to be an 8 team playoff, with the P5 conf champs getting an automatic bid, plus 3 at-large chosen by the committee. Very similar to the way March Madness is done. Would be simple to implement.
I don't really care much about the non-P5 conference teams, even though there are usually some feel-good stories there (Boise, No. Illinois, UCF, etc.). But those teams aren't a legit threat to win multiple games in a playoff scenario against elite competition.
Another poster suggested (and I'm fine with it) to form an upper and lower FBS division. The upper is the P5 conference teams and the lower is all other FBS teams. Each division can have their own playoff, with the bowls still intact, and used in the playoff games.
Of course, the most simple and fair approach seems to be an 8 team playoff, with the P5 conf champs getting an automatic bid, plus 3 at-large chosen by the committee. Very similar to the way March Madness is done. Would be simple to implement.
I don't really care much about the non-P5 conference teams, even though there are usually some feel-good stories there (Boise, No. Illinois, UCF, etc.). But those teams aren't a legit threat to win multiple games in a playoff scenario against elite competition.
Another poster suggested (and I'm fine with it) to form an upper and lower FBS division. The upper is the P5 conference teams and the lower is all other FBS teams. Each division can have their own playoff, with the bowls still intact, and used in the playoff games.
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